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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Tenses tag:Present perfect' matching tags 'Tenses' and 'Present perfect'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aTenses+tag%3aPresent+perfect&amp;tag=Tenses,Present+perfect&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Tenses tag:Present perfect' matching tags 'Tenses' and 'Present perfect'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3140.34611)</generator><item><title>Re: Present Perfect Vs Past Perfect</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPastPerfect/glhwl/post.htm#557339</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:58:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:557339</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;nands_krish&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;As far as I know in both tenses are used when an action begins in the past but continues into the present / holds relevance in the present. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; No.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Present perfect only is &amp;quot;used when an action begins in the past but continues into the present / holds relevance in the present&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Past perfect is used when an action began in the past but continued to another point in the past / held relevance at that point in the past.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Past perfect is the backshift of the past.&amp;nbsp; It is also the backshift of the present perfect.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;John said, &amp;quot;I saw that movie last week&amp;quot;.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;John said that he had seen that movie last week.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;John said, &amp;quot;I&amp;#39;ve seen that movie several times&amp;quot;.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;John said that he had seen that movie several times.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: Present Perfect Vs Past Perfect</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPastPerfect/glhvw/post.htm#557268</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:16:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:557268</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><description>Hi,&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#0000bf;"&gt;Could someone help me understand the difference between Present Perfect and Past Perfect ?&amp;nbsp; As far as I know in both tenses are used when an action begins in the past but continues into the present / holds relevance in the present. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="COLOR:#111111;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You&amp;#39;ll find a lot of discussion on the Forum about these Perfect tenses, if you use &amp;#39;Search&amp;#39;. However, here are a couple of simple comments for you to begin by considering.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As you know, use Present Perfect when an action has some relevance to the present. &lt;br /&gt;eg&amp;nbsp;I have passed my driver&amp;#39;s test, so I&amp;#39;d like to borrow your car.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Use Past Perfect when an action has some relevance to&lt;em&gt; a later point in the past&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;eg He had an accident last Thursday. He had&amp;nbsp;passed his driver&amp;#39;s test.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;eg Tom came home at 7pm. Mary cooked dinner. She cooked it after 7pm.&lt;br /&gt;eg Tom came home at 7pm. Mary had cooked dinner. She&amp;nbsp;cooked it before 7pm.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Best wishes, Clive&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description></item><item><title>Present Perfect Vs Past Perfect</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/PresentPerfectPastPerfect/glhvz/post.htm</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:58:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:557265</guid><dc:creator>nands_krish</dc:creator><description>Hi,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Could someone help me understand the difference between Present Perfect and Past Perfect ?&amp;nbsp; As far as I know in both tenses are used when an action begins in the past but continues into the present / holds relevance in the present. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks... &lt;br /&gt;N</description></item><item><title>Re: How to remember tenses?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowToRememberTenses/glhdp/post.htm#557258</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:25:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:557258</guid><dc:creator>Goodman</dc:creator><description>Huygen,&lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;By reading your post, something tells me that your&amp;nbsp; English level should be beyond the question you just asked, and able to categorize the tenses already. &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;There are 3 basic tenses: Simple past â present â future&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;There are past progressive- present progressive- future progressive.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Then there past perfect- present perfect âfuture perfect which is not commonly used.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;I am curious, may be I am missing something. Why do you have to memorize the tenses?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;We should be able use it according to the sense of time.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;You are walking â you are doing something at this minute. So itâs present progressive&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;I walk 2 miles everyday after work. &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Simple present, used&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;to reflect a routine.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;They were watching TV when you called last night.- Simple past progressive.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;The perfect tenses are more complex and you may have to do some reading and studying on your own. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Here is something which may be helpful: http://www.englishpage.com/verbpage/presentperfect.html&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: General Enquiries: Present &amp; Past Perfect tense usage</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/GeneralEnquiriesPresentPastPerfect-TenseUsage/glgnc/post.htm#557126</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:06:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:557126</guid><dc:creator>Mister Micawber</dc:creator><description>.&lt;br /&gt;1) we form the Present Perfect tense with &amp;quot;has/have&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;+ the past participle. It is used to show:&lt;br /&gt;a) actions that have been completed recently.-- &lt;strong&gt;Yes, that is one use       &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;2) we form the Past Perfect Tense with &amp;quot;had&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp; + the past participle. It is used to show&lt;br /&gt;a) an action that was completed some time ago-&lt;strong&gt;- No; it is used to clarify or emphasize the chronology of two non-simultaneous past events.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is the abovementioned contrast correct?&lt;strong&gt;--&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;No.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) we use the Present Perfect tense with ever, never, for and since for an action &lt;br /&gt;which happened from a period or point of time in the past till now.-&lt;strong&gt;- Generally, yes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a) I have never been to Maldives before. &lt;br /&gt;(would be alright if i omit or add before) &lt;strong&gt;Yes&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;b)what if this person just landed on the airport of maldives and told his &lt;br /&gt;friends, &amp;quot;I am so excited! I have never been to maldives before.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;In this case, is the above sentence correct? &lt;strong&gt;Yes &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;I have never been to Maldives before. is both used but has different meaning.-- &lt;strong&gt;Your 3 sentences are identical in verb form.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;c)if i were to use it in the Past perfect tense, which is past in the past form. &lt;br /&gt;can i say, I had never been to Maldives before until a month ago when I when there with my friends. -- &lt;strong&gt;Yes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;d)To add on to the above example, when people say i had never been/seen/eaten and etc. at that point of time, they already had been/seen/eaten? &lt;strong&gt;No &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just that they are illustrating the examples in past forms, E.g. I had never seen such a demure lady in my life before, however i saw one last month.-- &lt;strong&gt;It is used to clarify or emphasize the chronology of two non-simultaneous past events.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) I found this example and sentence in my grammar book. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a)(Function as the past form of the present perfect) - The Chong brothers had never cheated anyone in their lives before.(why present perfect is not used here)--&lt;strong&gt; &amp;quot;Before --- (event)&amp;quot; is in the past.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;b)Is it wrong to use present perfect here? - The Chong brothers have never cheated anyone in their lives before. &lt;strong&gt;No &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, found this example in the post here. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;c)Jane wanted to stop by his office because she had never met Richard (CEO) in person. &lt;br /&gt;past perfect tense is used here because this is not relating to the present situation but instead relating to a event that has happened before? is it?-- &lt;strong&gt;It is used to clarify or emphasize the chronology of two non-simultaneous past events.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;d)if we want to use present perfect tense because up till now, is it a fact that Jane still have not met Richard in person. &lt;br /&gt;Can we say, Jane has never met Richard (CEO) in person.&lt;strong&gt; Yes&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4) Never and before.&lt;br /&gt;whenever there&amp;#39;s never and before in a sentence, is it a must to use past instead of present tense. &lt;strong&gt;No &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;i never ate this before. i never been to this place before.&lt;br /&gt;i have never eaten this before. i have never been to this place before. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;I will never see him again&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>General Enquiries: Present &amp; Past Perfect tense usage</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/GeneralEnquiriesPresentPastPerfect-TenseUsage/glgmd/post.htm</link><pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:26:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:557110</guid><dc:creator>dave_amateur</dc:creator><description>Hi Mentors, Tutors and Native English Speakers/writers&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Can i say:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;1) we form the Present Perfect tense with &amp;quot;has/have&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 2) we form the Past Perfect Tense with &amp;quot;had&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; + the past participle. It is used to show:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;+ the past participle. It is used to show&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a)&amp;nbsp;actions&amp;nbsp;that have been completed recently.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; a) an action that was completed some time ago&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; E.g.&amp;nbsp;Tom has eaten the noodles.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; E.g. Tom had eaten the noodles.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;He has gone to Beijing.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; He had gone to Beijing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;&lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#00ffff;"&gt;Is the abovementioned contrast correct?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#ff00ff;"&gt;Yes/No&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) we use the Present Perfect tense with ever, never, for and since for an action &lt;br /&gt;which happened from a period or point of time in the past till now.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a) &lt;em&gt;I have never been to Maldives &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;before&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#00ffff;"&gt;(would be alright if i omit or add before)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#ff00ff;"&gt;Yes/No&lt;/span&gt;. It sounds the same&amp;nbsp;meaning to me.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;b)what if this person just landed on the airport of maldives and told his &lt;br /&gt;friends, &lt;span&gt;&lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#00ffff;"&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;I am so excited! &lt;em&gt;I have never been to maldives before.&amp;quot;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;In this case, is the above sentence correct? &lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#ff00ff;"&gt;Yes/No&lt;/span&gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;em&gt;I have never been to Maldives &lt;span style="text-decoration:underline;"&gt;before&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;. is both used but&amp;nbsp;has&amp;nbsp;different meaning.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;c)if i were to use it in the Past perfect tense, which is past in the past form. &lt;br /&gt;can i say, &lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#00ffff;"&gt;I had never been to Maldives before&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#ff00ff;"&gt;Yes/No&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;until a month ago when I when there with my friends. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;d)To add on to the above example, when people say i had never been/seen/eaten and etc. at that point of time, they already had been/seen/eaten? &lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#ff00ff;"&gt;Yes/No&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;Just that they are illustrating the examples in past forms, E.g. I&amp;nbsp;had never seen such a demure lady in my life before,&amp;nbsp;however i saw one last month. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3)&amp;nbsp;I found this example and sentence in my grammar book. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a)(Function as the past form of the present perfect)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; - The Chong brothers had never cheated anyone in their lives before.(why present perfect is not used here)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;b)Is it wrong to use present perfect here?&amp;nbsp;- The Chong brothers &lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#00ffff;"&gt;have &lt;/span&gt;never cheated anyone in their lives before. &lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#ff00ff;"&gt;Yes/No&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, found this example in the post here. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;c)Jane wanted to stop by his office because &lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#00ffff;"&gt;she had never met Richard (CEO) in person.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt;past perfect tense is used here because this is not relating to the present situation but instead relating to a event that has happened before? is it?&lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#ff00ff;"&gt;Yes/No&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;d)if we want to use present perfect tense because up till now, is it a fact that Jane still have not met Richard in person. &lt;br /&gt;Can we say, &lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#00ffff;"&gt;Jane has never met Richard (CEO) in person.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#ff00ff;"&gt;Yes/No&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#ffffff;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4) Never and before.&lt;br /&gt;whenever there&amp;#39;s never and before in a sentence, is it a &lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#00ffff;"&gt;must&lt;/span&gt; to use past instead of present tense. &lt;span style="BACKGROUND-COLOR:#ff00ff;"&gt;Yes/No&lt;/span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;i never ate this before. i never been to this place before.&lt;br /&gt;i have never eaten this before. i have never been to this place before. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you in advance. awaiting the replies.&lt;br /&gt;for clarity to other learners like me too, pls reply using 1a) 2) a b c d 3a) b and 4) for easy reference and understanding. &lt;br /&gt;appreciate &amp;amp; with lovess!!&lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>chossing correct tense/tense consistency</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ChossingCorrectTenseTense-Consistency/glgzd/post.htm</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 21:08:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:556991</guid><dc:creator>MaxMaximus</dc:creator><description>Greetings,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have a pretty big favour to ask.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#39;ve been struggling with this topic for quite awhile now.It goes without saying that my English &amp;quot;leaves something to be desired&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Having in mind the subtle differences that occur from using particular tenses, I have often wondered how the authors of following exercises expect anyone to choose the correct form, without providing sound and unambiguous references.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#39;ve uploaded 2 exercises that I stumbled upon :&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;1. http://rapidshare.com/files/138835945/HP.txt.html&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; and&lt;br /&gt;2.http://rapidshare.com/files/138835946/redundancy.txt.html&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have converted them into .txt files to ease moderators&amp;#39;&amp;nbsp; job.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;table&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td align="right"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt; They present the essence of my inability to comprehend and do right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First text:&lt;br /&gt;1. First sentence, adverb &amp;quot;always&amp;quot; stands before the verb (author did not bother to put it in the brackets (always/be)). If she is dead (we don&amp;#39;t know that until we have finished reading) or if she is not &amp;quot;a fighter&amp;quot; anymore (we are clueless about that either), - we could use Past Simple. Of course, Present Perfect is more likely choice, but the position of adverb puzzles.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.&amp;quot;But, prior to...&amp;quot; - Past Continuous or Past Perfect?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3.The sentence : &amp;quot;it (be)__ slow to notice..&amp;quot;.I&amp;#39;m not sure whether Past Simple or Past Perfect should be used here.There is no strong reference whether this &amp;quot;slow noticing&amp;quot; occurred prior to her arrival or about the time when she came on board.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4.&amp;quot;Those three years are not over..&amp;quot;. The starting point is present time, but, that has nothing to do with the moment when she realized how things stand, which I know nothing about.Even the Present Simple is possible if she keeps realizing everyday that things are harder than she expected.For the rest of the paragraph I&amp;#39;m not certain whether Present Perfect should be used.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;5.&amp;quot;Above all,..&amp;quot; - from Present Simple (finds, is trying, is going to embark)...to Present Perfect (has found, has tried/has been trying, has embarked)...The tenses chosen in these sentences determine the tenses of the last paragraph in the text.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Second text:&lt;br /&gt;1. First sentence: we could use Future Simple as well as Present Simple for the verb &amp;quot;have to&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. &amp;quot;Although no business or industry..&amp;quot;. If there was a recent survey - do interviewed subjects still claim what they have said - or the use of Past Tense is obligatory? The word &amp;quot;any&amp;quot; is used in interrogative or negative sentences - but here, no question is being asked nor it is possible to be negative. Instead, &amp;quot;some&amp;quot; should have been used, I think.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. &amp;quot;Those who have...&amp;quot; - Present Continuous or Present Simple? Former is more likely choice although the latter is possible also.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4. &amp;quot;In the past..&amp;quot; - as far as I know this presents the &amp;quot;indefinite moment in time&amp;quot;. The Present Perfect could be used - but the position of adverb &amp;quot;always&amp;quot; confuses, again.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I would be more than grateful to anyone who can shed some light on these issues.&lt;br /&gt;If I could reach to any other decent credible source I wouldn&amp;#39;t ask for help in this way.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks in advance,&lt;br /&gt;Georgie.</description></item><item><title>Re: fit(s), saw</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/FitSSaw/gldnm/post.htm#556269</link><pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:38:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:556269</guid><dc:creator>Newguest</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Avangi&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;1.&amp;nbsp; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;Which&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is the subject so you need the singular verb, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION:underline;"&gt;fits.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&amp;nbsp; But we would not use &amp;quot;to&amp;quot; in this case.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.&amp;nbsp; Either one works. 
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&lt;p&gt;So it should be: Which of these words fits this rule???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I thought that when you say: It was the first time.. then you have to use &amp;quot;the past perfect tense&amp;quot; and when you say: it&amp;#39;s the first time.. then you have to use &amp;quot;the present perfect tense&amp;quot;???&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Thank you&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Conditional Sentence</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ConditionalSentence/gldrh/post.htm#556043</link><pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:26:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:556043</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;eagerness&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;the day after it actually happened&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; Then it&amp;#39;s&lt;i&gt; wouldn&amp;#39;t&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Though some variation is possible in the right situation, the typical groups of tenses that go together in the same sentence are:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Present perfect - Present - Future of the Present (&lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt;) - Most modal verbs, including &lt;i&gt;can, may, must, should&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;OR&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Past Perfect - Past - Future of the Past (&lt;i&gt;would&lt;/i&gt;) - &lt;i&gt;could, should,&amp;nbsp;might&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: 4 sentences</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/4Sentences/glczr/post.htm#555832</link><pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:29:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:555832</guid><dc:creator>sunny_adam</dc:creator><description>1, No you would not say that unless it was backed up with a reason. You would say&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; I don&amp;#39;t like him anymore or I stopped liking him because.....&lt;br /&gt;2, No not correct also. The question sounds rhetorical and intraverted. you could say.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Do you know why i don&amp;#39;t like him anymore? but I cannot think of a context on which you would use such a question.&lt;br /&gt;3, This one is mostly accurate but in reality you would say:&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Now he&amp;#39;s going to be taking his driving test for the 7th time.&lt;br /&gt;4, This one is good. I take it this is supposed to be in the past tense? if it was the present perfect it should be written. I didn&amp;#39;t expect you to arrive so early.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>