Search results for 'tag:Tenses tag:Present progressive' matching tags 'Tenses' and 'Present progressive'

Re: How to remember tenses?

Goodman — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:25:45 GMT

Huygen,

By reading your post, something tells me that your English level should be beyond the question you just asked, and able to categorize the tenses already.

There are 3 basic tenses: Simple past â present â future

There are past progressive- present progressive- future progressive.

Then there past perfect- present perfect âfuture perfect which is not commonly used.

I am curious, may be I am missing something. Why do you have to memorize the tenses?

We should be able use it according to the sense of time.

You are walking â you are doing something at this minute. So itâs present progressive

I walk 2 miles everyday after work. Simple present, used to reflect a routine.

They were watching TV when you called last night.- Simple past progressive.

The perfect tenses are more complex and you may have to do some reading and studying on your own.

Here is something which may be helpful: http://www.englishpage.com/verbpage/presentperfect.html

Re: Teaching Workplace English - PPP (present-practice-production) & TBL (Task-Based Learning)

samwalker — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:17:29 GMT

Time Allotment Week 1

Â	A	B	C	D	F	G
1	Day 1			In Minutes	Â	Â
2	House Rules			15	Â	Â
3	Language is a Lifestyle			15	Â	Â
4	Background of the Approach			30	Â	Â
5	Grading Scheme			5	Â	Â
6	HR Orientation	Â	Â	90	Â	Â
7	Ventus Video			15	Â	Â
8	Introductions			45	Â	IMPORTANT NOTES:
9	Making Phone Calls			Â	Â	RECAP/REVIEW ROLE PLAYS are not graded. This is the best venue for either peer or trainer feedback
10	Â	Present		Â	Â	For group activities, ensure that all members are contributing or participating to maximize the learning.
11	Â	Â	Lead In (creating interest, eliciting answers, concept questions) Have you ever made a phone call before? How did you start the call? How did it end? Would you say the communication was successful? What was the purpose of the call? Did you get what you expected out of it? Share your experiences with a partner.	10	Â	Always pay close attention to pronunciation with every activity.
12	Â	Â	Systematization (present module on Sound Production)	45	Â	Â
13	Â	Practice		Â	Â	Â
14	Â	Â	Making Contact (Activity A)	25	Â	Â
15	Â	Â	Making Contact (Activity B)	25	Â	Â
16	Â	Â	Calling Back	25	Â	Â
17	Â	Production		Â	Â	Â
18	Â	Â	Roleplay (scenarios)	60	Â	Â
19	Telephone English Roleplays			Â	Â	Â
20	Â	Present		Â	Â	Â
21	Â	Â	Running Dictation	15	Â	Â
22	Â	Â	Systematization (Modality:Â going to and will)	30	Â	Â
23	Â	Practice		Â	Â	Â
24	Â	Â	ABC Tech Scenario 1	20	Â	Â
25	Â	Â	ABC Tech Scenario 2	20	Â	Â
26	Â	Â	ABC Tech Scenario 3	20	Â	Â
27	Â	Production		Â	Â	Â
28	Â	Â	Roleplay (trainees pair up and come up with their own scenarios)	30	Â	Â
29	Lunch			60	Â	Â
30	Breaks			30	Â	Â
31	Total Time			630	Â	Â
32	Day 2			In Minutes	Â	Â
33	RECAP/REVIEW ACTIVITY (Roleplay) - Making Phone Calls/ Sound Production			60	Â	Â
34	Complaints on the Telephone			Â	Â	Â
35	Â	Present		Â	Â	Â
36	Â	Â	Lead In (creating interest, eliciting answers, concept questions) Activity: Do you consider yourself a consumer? Share experiences with a group and then share with the rest of the class. Write down words associated with dissatisfaction.	15	Â	Â
37	Â	Â	Systematization (Different Types of Difficult Customers and How to Deal with Them)	45	Â	Â
38	Â	Practice		Â	Â	Â
39	Â	Â	Create your own Taboo	30	Â	Â
40	Â	Â	Complaints on the Telephone Activity C:Â Focus	30	Â	Â
41	Â	Production		Â	Â	Â
42	Â	Â	Roleplay	60	Â	Â
43	Complaints on the Telephone			Â	Â	Â
44	Â	Pre-Task (list all the complaints you've made in a resto and categorize according to intention/function)		10	Â	Â
45	Â	Task		Â	Â	Â
46	Â	Â	Plan	10	Â	Â
47	Â	Â	Report	15	Â	Â
48	Â	Â	Analysis (Functions of Modal Verbs: Complaining, Softening the Message )	60	Â	Â
49	Â	Practice		Â	Â	Â
50	Â	Â	RoleplayÂ (Activity D)	60	Â	Â
51	Â	Quiz (Function of Modal Verbs and Aspects of Modality) PPT presentation for the questions		55	Â	Â
52	Lunch			60	Â	Â
53	Breaks			30	Â	Â
54	Total Time			540	Â	Â
55	Day 3			In Minutes	Â	Â
56	RECAP/REVIEW ACTIVITY			Â	Â	Â
57	Â	Modality (Task 2, page 3) Check-Up Activity		20	Â	Â
58	Â	Roleplay (Difficult Customers)		40	Â	Â
59	CALL 1 (Anna Pagtakhan) - Modality			Â	Â	Â
60	Â	Present		Â	Â	Â
61	Â	Â	Lead In (creating interest, eliciting answers, concept questions) Activity: Play by Play (ask the trainees to listen to the call. They will need to pick out confusing statements or utterances they feel are out of place, uncalled for, etc.	15	Â	Â
62	Â	Â	Systematization (Modality: Requesting for Information, Asking for Permission)	30	Â	Â
63	Â	Practice		Â	Â	Â
64	Â	Â	Identifying and Correcting Modals Used in the Call	30	Â	Â
65	Â	Â	Role Play with Corrections	45	Â	Â
66	Â	Production		Â	Â	Â
67	Â	Â	Role Plays ( How Would You Do It Better? - Only change CSRs responses - roles will be played by trainees, switch it up after)	45	Â	Â
68	CALL 1 (Anna Pagtakhan) - Soft Skills			Â	Â	Â
69	Â	Present		Â	Â	Â
70	Â	Â	Lead In (creating interest, eliciting answers, concept questions) Activity: Play by Play (ask the trainees to listen to the call. Go through their original list and if they feel that they need to add more statements that are possible causes for communication breakdown, then let them do so.)	30	Â	Â
71	Â	Â	Systematization (Soft Skills: Overtones, Tone and Undertones )	30	Â	Â
72	Â	Â	Systematization (Phonology: Connected Speech and Elision )	15	Â	Â
73	Â	Practice		Â	Â	Â
74	Â	Â	Identifying undertones in the call and correcting tone	30	Â	Â
75	Â	Â	Role Play with Corrections	60	Â	Â
76	Â	Production		Â	Â	Â
77	Â	Â	Role Plays ( How Would You Do It Better? - Only change CSRs responses - roles will be played by trainees, switch it up after)	60	Â	Â
78	Lunch	Â	Â	60	Â	Â
79	Breaks	Â	Â	30	Â	Â
80	Total Time	Â	Â	540	Â	Â
81	Day 4			In Minutes	Â	Â
82	RECAP/REVIEW ACTIVITY	Â	Â	Â	Â	Â
83	Â	Roleplay (Not Graded, Just give feedback) - Modality and Soft Skills	Â	40	Â	Â
84	CALL 2 (Christopher Gavero)			Â	Â	Â
85	Â	Present		Â	Â	Â
86	Â	Â	Lead In (creating interest, eliciting answers, concept questions) Activity: Play by Play (ask the trainees to listen to the call. They will need to pick out confusing statements or utterances they feel are out of place, uncalled for, etc.	30	Â	Â
87	Â	Â	Systematization (Modality: Giving advice/suggestions; Offering )	40	Â	Â
88	Â	Practice		Â	Â	Â
89	Â	Â	Identifying and Correcting Modals Used in the Call	30	Â	Â
90	Â	Â	Role Play with Corrections	45	Â	Â
91	Â	Production		Â	Â	Â
92	Â	Â	Role Plays ( How Would You Do It Better? - Same scenario)	60	Â	Â
93	CALL 1 and CALL 3 (Anna Pagtakhan and Lorelie Sanchez)	Â	Â	Â	Â	Â
94	Â	Present		Â	Â	Â
95	Â	Â	Lead In (creating interest, eliciting answers, concept questions) Activity: Tag Team - An Exercise on Synonyms: Vocabulary Building - Word Mapping and Association	10	Â	Â
96	Â	Â	Systematization (Paraphrasing)	45	Â	Â
97	Â	Practice		Â	Â	Â
98	Â	Â	Identifying and Correcting Repetitive, Redundant and confusing statements. - Compare and Contrast	30	Â	Â
99	Â	Â	Role Play with Corrections	30	Â	Â
100	Â	Production		Â	Â	Â
101	Â	Â	Role Plays (Change the CSRs responses for CALL 3)	60	Â	Â
102	Â	Â	QUIZ on Modality (Written)	30	Â	Â
103	Lunch			60	Â	Â
104	Breaks			30	Â	Â
105	Total Time			540	Â	Â
106	Day 5			In Minutes	Â	Â
107	RECAP/REVIEW ACTIVITY	Â	Â	Â	Â	Â
108	Â	Roleplay (Modality and Paraphrasing)	Â	40	Â	Â
109	REVIEW for Written Exam	Â	Â	40	Â	Â
110	Â	WRITTEN EXAM: Application and Analysis		90	Â	Â
111	REVIEW for Final Role Play			40	Â	Â
112	Â	ORAL EXAM: One on One Role Play with Trainer	Â	240	Â	Â
113	Lunch	Â	Â	60	Â	Â
114	Breaks	Â	Â	30	Â	Â
115	Total Time	Â	Â	540	Â	Â

Time Allotment Week 2

Â	A	B	C	D	E	F
1	Day 6			In Minutes	Â	Â
2	RECAP/REVIEW ACTIVITY (Roleplay) -Sound Production/Modality/ Handling Difficult Customers/ Paraphrasing			60	Â	Â
3	Â	Present (CALL 4: Matthew Ignacio)		Â	Â	For group activities, ensure that all members are contributing or participating to maximize the learning.
4	Â	Â	Lead In (creating interest, eliciting answers, concept questions) Activity:Â I CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH. Divide the class into groups of five. Ask each group to come up with as many statements of fact that they can recall about the conversation they've listened to (i.e. The CSRs name is Matthew, etc.)	30	Â	Always pay close attention to pronunciation with every activity.
5	Â	Â	Systematization (Present the module on theÂ Present Simple TenseÂ )	45	Â	Â
6	Â	Practice (CALL 4: Matthew Ignacio)		Â	Â	Â
7	Â	Â	Filtering: Let the class listen to the call again, this time, give them the transcript as well. In groups, ask them to determine which statements are clearer if kept in the simple present tense.	60	Â	Â
8	Â	Production		Â	Â	Â
9	Â	Â	RoleplayÂ (scenarios) - Ask the class to input their corrections into the call and then ask each pair to go through the motions of the call. Give immediate feedback.	80	Â	Â
10	CALL 5: Maria Josue			Â	Â	Â
11	Â	Present		Â	Â	Â
12	Â	Â	Running Dictation:Â (1)Make the trainees listen to the call in its entirety. (2)Ask them to take down important notes and details. (3) Divide them into groups. (4) Give them 3 strips of paper per group. (5) Ask them to write statements that are relevant to the call, one statement per strip. (6) Ask them to pick out one representative. (7) The facilitator will collect all the strips and give statements from one group to another group's representative. (8) The representative will only be able to look at the statements for 30 seconds. (9) Then he/she will have to pass all three messages to the person next to him in line until it's been relayed to rest of the group. (10) The last person in the group will have to repeat all three statements.	30	Â	Â
13	Â	Â	Systematization (Present module on theÂ Present Progressive Tense)	35	Â	Â
14	Â	Practice		Â	Â	Â
15	Â	Â	Pick Your Brains:Â The class will have to pick out the statements following the form of the progressive simple tense.	45	Â	Â
16	Â	Â	Editing and Processing:Â Determine which statements should have been more comprehensible if the statements were in the progressive tense.	45	Â	Â
17	Â	Production		Â	Â	Â
18	Â	Â	RoleplayÂ (trainees pair up and come up with their own conversation using the same concern as that in Call 5)	80	Â	Â
19	Lunch			60	Â	Â
20	Breaks			30	Â	Â
21	Total Time			540	Â	Â
22	Day 7			In Minutes	Â	Â
23	RECAP/REVIEW ACTIVITY (Roleplay) - Use of the Present Simple and Present Progressive Tenses			60	Â	Â
24	Â	Present		Â	Â	Â
25	Â	Â	Lead In (creating interest, eliciting answers, concept questions) Complete the Sentence Activity (If I wereâ¦If you ask meâ¦)	20	Â	Â
26	Â	Â	Systematization (Present module on theÂ 1st Conditional: Present Simple and Future Simple Format)	30	Â	Â
27	CALL 6: Marilou Salcedo (Let the class listen to the call at least twice)			10	Â	Â
28	Â	Practice		Â	Â	Â
29	Â	Â	Determine if there are conditionals used and misused in the call	20	Â	Â
30	Â	Â	Applying the Format:Â Change statements into the first conditional.	40	Â	Â
31	Â	Production		Â	Â	Â
32	Â	Â	Roleplay:Â Ask the trainees to come up with their own conversation based on the scenario in the call. They should be able to use the first conditional where it is needed.	60	Â	Â
33	CALL 7: Margaret Gonsoden			15	Â	Â
34	Â	Present		Â	Â	Â
35	Â	Â	Lead In (creating interest, eliciting answers, concept questions) Ask the trainees to pick out 1st conditionals in the call.	15	Â	Â
36	Â	Â	Systematization (Present module on theÂ 2nd and 3rd conditionals)	30	Â	Â
37	Â	Practice		Â	Â	Â
38	Â	Â	Applying the Format: Change the 1st conditionals into either 2nd or 3rd conditionals	30	Â	Â
39	Â	Â	Revision Mission:Â Ask the trainees to improve the conversation by injecting conditionals into strategic places in the call.	30	Â	Â
40	Â	Production		Â	Â	Â
41	Â	Â	Role PlaysÂ ( How Would You Do It Better? - Only change CSRs responses - roles will be played by trainees, switch it up after)	60	Â	Â
42	Â			Â	Â	Â
43	Â	Quiz (Present Tenses:Â CTWE The Tenses Handout, page 1 items 1-8)		30	Â	Â
44	Lunch			60	Â	Â
45	Breaks			30	Â	Â
46	Total Time			540	Â	Â
47	Day 8			In Minutes	Â	Â
48	RECAP/REVIEW ACTIVITY: Using Conditionals in a Role Play			60	Â	Â
49	CALL 8: Rosa Batangan			Â	Â	Â
50	Â	Present		Â	Â	Â
51	Â	Â	Lead In (creating interest, eliciting answers, concept questions) Modals and Conditionals: Are there any uses of modals or conditionals? How do these help keep the communication lines clear?	Â	Â	Â
52	Â	Â	Systematization (Making Modals and Conditionals Work for Us)	Â	Â	Â
53	Â	Practice		Â	Â	Â
54	Â	Â	Identifying and Correcting Repetitive, Redundant and confusing statements. -Â Compare and Contrast	Â	Â	Â
55	Â	Â	Role Play with Corrections	Â	Â	Â
56	Â	Production		Â	Â	Â
57	Â	Â	Role Plays ( How Would You Do It Better? - Only change CSRs responses - roles will be played by trainees, switch it up after)	Â	Â	Â
58	CALL 9: Winston Mendiola			Â	Â	Â
59	Â	Present		Â	Â	Â
60	Â	Â	Lead In (creating interest, eliciting answers, concept questions) Modals and Conditionals: Are there any uses of modals or conditionals? How do these help keep the communication lines clear?	Â	Â	Â
61	Â	Â	Systematization (Making Modals and Conditionals Work for Us)	Â	Â	Â
62	Â	Practice		Â	Â	Â
63	Â	Â	Identifying and Correcting Repetitive, Redundant and confusing statements. -Â Compare and Contrast	Â	Â	Â
64	Â	Â	Role Play with Corrections	Â	Â	Â
65	Â	Production		Â	Â	Â
66	Â	Â	Role Plays ( How Would You Do It Better? - Only change CSRs responses - roles will be played by trainees, switch it up after)	Â	Â	Â
67	Lunch			Â	Â	Â
68	Breaks			Â	Â	Â
69	Total Time			0	Â	Â
70	Day 9			In Minutes	Â	Â
71	RECAP/REVIEW ACTIVITY			Â	Â	Â
72	Â	Roleplay (Not Graded, Just give feedback) -Conditionals		Â	Â	Â
73	American Culture			Â	Â	Â
74	Â	Present		Â	Â	Â
75	Â	Â	Lead In (creating interest, eliciting answers, concept questions)Â Â Elicitation Questions: Do you watch American sitcoms and movies? What have you observed about their lifestyle? What makes them tick? What values are important to them?	Â	Â	Â
76	Â	Â	SystematizationÂ (Show clips from sitcoms and/or movies that focus on: value of time; idea of customer service; being frank and direct to the point)	Â	Â	Â
77	Â	Practice (Plethora of Calls)		Â	Â	Â
78	Â	Â	Culture ClassÂ - Divide the class into groups: give each group a call that's been discussed in the course of the training program (Calls 1 -9). Ask them to pick out scenarios or dialogue that reflects a value that is concretely American.	Â	Â	Â
79	Â	Production		Â	Â	Â
80	Â	Â	Role Play:Â Ask the trainees to come up with their own conversation scenarios based on the aspect of culture they picked out from the calls given to them.	Â	Â	Â
81	Present: Lead In (creating interest, eliciting answers, concept questions)Â Background on DISH Network Services			Â	Â	Â
82	Â	Presentation of Modules in Connection to the services offered: Customer Service		Â	Â	Â
83	Â	Â	Geography and Time Zones	Â	Â	Â
84	Â	Â	Sports	Â	Â	Â
85	Â	Â	Money	Â	Â	Â
86	Â	Â	Seasons and Holidays	Â	Â	Â
87	Â	Practice (Plethora of Calls)		Â	Â	Â
88	Â	Â	It's All in the Details- Divide the class into groups: give each group a call that's been discussed in the course of the training program (Calls 1 -9). Ask them to pick out scenarios or dialogue that reflects any of the modules tackled in the Present stage.	Â	Â	Â
89	Â	Production		Â	Â	Â
90	Â	Â	Role Play:Â Ask the trainees to come up with their own conversation scenarios based on the aspect of culture they picked out from the calls given to them.	Â	Â	Â
91	Lunch			Â	Â	Â
92	Breaks			Â	Â	Â
93	Total Time			0	Â	Â
94	Day 10			In Minutes	Â	Â
95	RECAP/REVIEW ACTIVITY			Â	Â	Â
96	Â	Roleplay (Tenses, Conditionals, Active and Passive Verbs )		40	Â	Â
97	REVIEW for Written Exam	Â	Â	40	Â	Â
98	Â	WRITTEN EXAM: Application and Analysis	Â	90	Â	Â
99	REVIEW for Final Role Play	Â	Â	40	Â	Â
100	Â	ORAL EXAM: One on One Role Play with Trainer	Â	240	Â	Â
101	Lunch			60	Â	Â
102	Breaks			30	Â	Â
103	Total Time	Â	Â	540	Â	Â

I transcribed the call and below is my lesson plan which I patterned from their format above.

AGENTÂ : Thank fuh calling Circuit City, muh name is Zach. Meh please have phone number beginning with the area code?

CUSTOMERÂ : Hi Zach, this is Sheik Sylvan and I just need to ask a few questions.

AGENTÂ Â : Go ahead.

CUSTOMERÂ : Okay, I am having your catalog in front of me and the last page is computer. Itâs HP Turion laptop with a Core 2 Duo Centrino. It comes with a window vista and it plays one the fent charges with the Window XP. Can you do that or it has to be Window vista?

AGENTÂ : Aahmm well if waahh that is only aahh the inclusion of aahh the order we cannot do anything about it.

CUSTOMERÂ : Oh, you cannot do anything. Shall I call some of the number if there are anything?

AGENTÂ Â : Aahh you chood try contacting the manufacturer of the laptop.

CUSTOMERÂ : Do you have the number?

AGENTÂ Â : Aahh what is the ahh ahh item?

CUSTOMERÂ : Okay, the web ID is DV6833us.

AGENTÂ Â : What is the brand of the laptop?

CUSTOMERÂ : Okay, thatâs aahh HP Turion laptop.

AGENTÂ Â : Itâs HP pavilion.

CUSTOMERÂ : Yes, the pavilion laptop with the Intel Centrino Core 2 Duo.

AGENTÂ Â : Okay, contact Hewlett Packard 800â¦

CUSTOMERÂ : Okay 800â¦

AGENTÂ Â : 752â¦

CUSTOMERÂ : 752â¦

AGENTÂ Â : 0900â¦

CUSTOMERÂ : Say it again, 29?

AGENTÂ Â : 7920900â¦

CUSTOMERÂ : Iâm sorry, can you repeat it again?

AGENTÂ Â : 09-00, the last four number.

CUSTOMERÂ : 0900. Okay, so itâs 8007520900, all right?

AGENTÂ Â : That is correct.

CUSTOMERÂ : Thank you, Sir.

AGENTÂ Â : Thank you for calling Cir City. Have a great day.Â

Let me know if you want me to email you the selected call in .wmv format.

Title: Name That ToneÂ Â Â Â By: Francis Paolo Meria

Activity: Reading sentences using different emotionsÂ Audio file: John Paul Cruz (bad call CCCS)Â

Concept to be taught: Tone, Overtones and UndertonesÂ

Learning Outcomes / Instructional Goal

To realize the importance of tone
To be able to identify and correct undertones
To build rapport by using the using the right tone of voice

Purpose: This activity helps the trainees to become more confident in their ability to recognize tones different forms. It also helps motivate everyone in the room to participate in the learning.Â Â

Assessment - At the end of the lesson, assess whether the objective was achieved or not with an activity. Show sentences and statements and ask the agents individually to say the sentence using the correct tone of voice or the trainer could say a sentence with different emotions and ask each trainee to identify the mood of the speaker. In this way, the concept will be clear.Â

Present

Lead In Â : creating interests, eliciting answers, concept questions (How does tone of voice affect communication? How do you thank someone? How do you say âIâm sorryâ?) â 5 minutesÂ

Methodology/ProcedureÂ : ask the trainees to listen to the call and pick out confusing statements, utterances they feel are out of place, uncalled for, etc. Go through their original list and if they feel that they need to add more statements that are possible causes for communication breakdown, then let them do so. âÂ 10 minutesÂ

Systematization â Soft skills (overtones, tone and undertones) â 10 minutesÂ

Practice

Identify the undertones in the call â 5 minutesÂ

Filtering â let the class listen to the call again, this time, give them the transcript as well â 15 minutesÂ

Revision Mission â ask the trainees to improve the conversation by applying the appropriate tone of voice in each statement â 30 minutesÂ

Production

Role-plays â how would you do it better? (roles will be played by trainees, switch it up after) â 45 minutesÂ

Function of tenses

gordo604 — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:50:06 GMT

Hello,

I need help with checking whether these verb tenses are present perfect, present simple, present progressive, past simple.

I put my answers in (brackets)

2. I wish I had more time to finish this exercise. (present simple)
3. When you have finished, you can go home. (present progressive)
4. 'Major calls for peace summit' (a headline). (present progressive)
5. I'm meeting some friends at the pub tonight. (present progressive)
6. We've got the next lesson in the language library. (present perfect)
7. I am to give a speech at the conference next week. (present simple) Thanks so much.

Re: I've been "wanting" to visit Paris all my life.

Avangi — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:52:43 GMT

Hi Viceidol,

Thus far we have examples of three tenses: simple present, present progressive, and present perfect progressive. As Philip says, the present progressive seems awkward with "I am wanting." I don't know if it's considered incorrect.

The other two seem fine, correct, and natural. I want to go to Europe. (simple present) I've been wanting to go to Europe. (present perfect progressive)

I expect I might use "I am wanting" (I'm wanting) in certain cases similar to "I'm thinking." I'm thinking I might run out of gas. I'm thinking I shouldn't be spending so much time on my homework.

When I switch from a standard (stick) shift to an automatic transmission, I'm wanting to push in the clutch when I come to a full stop. I'm wanting to ask her for a divorce, but I keep thinking about the children. Somehow, these seem natural to me.

I am wanting has the same feel as I keep wanting.

Best wishes, - A.

Edit. Hi Yankee, I got interrupted while I was writing this, and didn't see your post.

Re: subject of subordinate clause

Avangi — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:03:44 GMT

#1 John who took my pen is here.

#2 John who is wearing my jacket is here.

How firm a grasp would you like to obtain? (I know I shouldn't have written that, but I couldn't resist.)

The thing that works for me is to take out the the subject and the "verb" and see if it still makes sense. (That may even be the "rule.")

The reason it works in #2 and not in #1 is the difference in tenses and in verb forms. In "who took my pen" vs "who is wearing my jacket" "who" is the subject in each case, so that's not the difference. (If you took out "who," what would you propose for the subject? Without a subject you have no clause. You might think to claim "John" as the subject, but it can't be the subject of both clauses. You could use a compound predicate: "John is wearing my jacket and is here." )

Notice that in #2 both clauses are present tense. The verb is actually "is wearing," present progressive of "to wear." So you don't actually take out the verb - only the helping verb "is," which leaves you with the present participle, "wearing." You now have a participial phrase, "wearing my jacket," which is just fine. He's wearing it now and he's here now.

In #1, there's no helping verb to take out. You could take out the "who," leaving you with a compound predicate, but you'd need to add a conjunction. "John took my pen and is here." (The two different tenses work, but "is here" is no longer the dominant idea.)

If the original were, "John, who is taking my pulse, is Russian," then it works like #2. "John, taking my pulse, is Russian."

If you use two different tenses, as in the original #1, you'd have, "John, who was taking my pulse, is Russian." That leads to, "John, taking my pulse, is Russian." What happened to your past tense?

So try it, and ask yourself if the meaning is still the same.

Best wishes, - A.

Re: Do you mean to say

Mister Micawber — Tue, 01 Apr 2008 12:37:36 GMT

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D is the only answer. Present progressive is the only appropriate tense and aspect for action verbs in the present moment ('now').

Re: What is the difference? Present Progressive VS Present Perfect Progressive.

Juno Kim — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:27:01 GMT

She is eating dinner for one hour. / She has been eating dinner for one hour.

He is watching TV all day. / He has been watching TV all day.

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Actually, these two cases are the point that I eagar to know.

So, let me give you another example, if you don't mind. :-)

How is your vacation going so far? / How has your vacation been going so far?

You may say that we can't use the expression 'so far' with present progressive tense.

However, people are using that kind of tense forms now. (You can see them in the Google site right now.)

Thank you in advance. ;-)

Re: He is reading a book for an hour.

CalifJim — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:46:26 GMT

Anonymous
ï¼Do you mean "He was reading a book for an hour." is the same as "He was going to read a book for an hour."?

No. My example was in the present tense. A present progressive tense expresses an activity taking place at the moment you utter the sentence. If I say "You are dancing" at a time when you are not dancing, I have not spoken the truth. The amount of time is nearly zero. So if I say "You are reading", I mean that right now, at this very moment as I speak, you are engaged in the activity of reading. But if I say "for an hour", I extend the amount of time from a second or two to an hour, and the progressive tense doesn't make sense anymore. So "You are reading for an hour" says that at this very moment you are engaged in the activity of reading for an hour. That makes no sense. You can't have an hour within a moment.

However, another interpretation of the present progressive is that of future time. So if we hear a sentence that seems to be contradictory, we try to assign this future meaning to the sentence. So He is reading for an hour is like He is going to read for an hour.

The past progressive doesn't work the same as the present progressive, so you can refer to more than just a short moment with the past progressive. Nevertheless, on rare occasions, the past progressive can be used to refer to time after the past, that is, to the future of the past.

-- What was he planning to do after school?

-- He was reading for an hour and then writing some letters.

OR: He was going to read for an hour, and then he was going to write some letters. (better)

Anonymous
ï¼And do you mean Progressive form can't coexist with a concrete expression of period
when you are expressing things of the current moment?

Right, except in the present perfect, as Grammar Geek showed you above. But then that's not, strictly speaking, expressing something about just the current moment, but about the entire hour that ends at the current moment.

As explained above, you can't logically have an expression of a period and an expression of a moment at the same time in one sentence.

Re: relating to/ related to

Avangi — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:06:01 GMT

Hi Christanford,

present participle vs past participle - The past participle by itself (related) functions like an adjective and fits your definition, "connected in some way." "the heart and its related organs."

I can't immediately think how the present participle (relating) would work by itself, but together with "to" it acts like the preposition "about." "Do you have any information relating to the role of the Vatican in World War II? You could substitute "related to" in this example, but I think it's less common.

"Is the CIA related to the FBI?" / "The CIA is related to the FBI." I don't believe you could substitute "relating" in this example. I'd say "related" is a predicate adjective and the "to" is a preposition. If you say "The CIA is relating to the FBI," you probably mean they're having an ongoing "relationship." (present progressive tense)

Of course both words function as parts of the verb "to relate" in forming various tenses. (meaning: to tell a story) She was relating her life's story while we were driving to London. I have related my alibi to three different detectives.

Sorry, a bit too tired, - A.

Re: contemplating throwing

Hoa Thai — Sat, 02 Feb 2008 06:32:44 GMT

Anewcomer wrote:
Hi Teachers I came across this sentence in a story book: He had stood upon his balcony and contemplated throwing himself down to the street. Why it's not like this: He had stood upon his balcony and contemplated to throw himself down to the street And what is the difference? And can i say: "continuing saying things" or "continue saying things" or "continue to say things", and what's the difference Thanks

Hi,

The verb contemplate belongs to a group of verbs such as admit, avoid, deny, enjoy, and many more that are followed by a noun or gerund but not an infinitive.

The verb continue, however, may be followed by either a gerund or an infinitive.

We use the present progressive to send a message of âin middle of doing somethingâ (i.e., the action itself). The present tense simply shows the state.