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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Uncountable nouns tag:Dialects' matching tags 'Uncountable nouns' and 'Dialects'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aUncountable+nouns+tag%3aDialects&amp;tag=Uncountable+nouns,Dialects&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Uncountable nouns tag:Dialects' matching tags 'Uncountable nouns' and 'Dialects'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3168.38637)</generator><item><title>Re: How come I haven't heard this?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowComeIHaventHeardThis/cjcnx/post.htm#212072</link><pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 03:44:22 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:212072</guid><dc:creator>Vorpar</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Believer wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt; 

&lt;P&gt;In your opinion, "I have a hammer." doesn't sound grammatically correct but "I've got a hammer." sounds grammatically correct?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;I always thought/felt&amp;nbsp;that the sentential construct "I have something." is&amp;nbsp;both natural-sounding and grammatically correct. Am I&amp;nbsp;missing something big in regard to&amp;nbsp;the English &lt;U&gt;dialect&lt;/U&gt;?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also, is the word "dialect" a countable or an uncountable noun?&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Sorry for the confusion. "I have something" sounds fine. It sounds weird when you contract it: "I've&amp;nbsp;something"&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Dialect is countable.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: How come I haven't heard this?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowComeIHaventHeardThis/cjrhb/post.htm#211379</link><pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:11:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:211379</guid><dc:creator>Believer</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;In your opinion, "I have a hammer." doesn't sound grammatically correct but "I've got a hammer." sounds grammatically correct?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;I always thought/felt&amp;nbsp;that the sentential construct "I have something." is&amp;nbsp;both natural-sounding and grammatically correct. Am I&amp;nbsp;missing something big in regard to&amp;nbsp;the English &lt;U&gt;dialect&lt;/U&gt;?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also, is the word "dialect" a countable or an uncountable noun?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Article</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Article/cvmmc/post.htm#190368</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:20:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:190368</guid><dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;Hi,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;1) Tom : There are many dialects in &lt;U&gt;the&lt;/U&gt; Chinese language such as Cantonese and Hokkinese.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Why the is needed before Chinese language? (It is just the first time we mention it.)&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt; because there are many languages and we are specifying the Chinese one, not the German one, etc.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;2)Tom: I have three pieces of advice.First........&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Mary: Thank you for &lt;U&gt;the&lt;/U&gt; advice. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;"Advice" is uncountable noun. Why the is needed before this word?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt; &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;Just because something is uncountable, it doesn't necessarily mean you don't need an article.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;3)Tom :Wow! Which city did you like the best?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;&amp;nbsp; Mary :I liked New York the best because there it has a lot of museums and shops to visit. I went to the headquaters of the United Nations, the statue of Liberty and &lt;U&gt;the &lt;/U&gt;Metropolitan Museum.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;Why the is needed before Metropolitan Museum? Isn't it a proper noun?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt; There are lots of museums, here we mean specifically the Metropolitan one. Compare '&lt;EM&gt;The&lt;/EM&gt; Lincoln Memorial'. Or, from your own example, '&lt;EM&gt;The&lt;/EM&gt; United Nations'. &lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;FONT color=#000000&gt;Having said that, I admit that the use of articles with such&amp;nbsp;proper names can sometimes be a little tricky and inconsistent.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Best wishes, Clive&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Article</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Article/cvmzl/post.htm</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2006 07:16:10 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:190258</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;1) Tom : There are many dialects in &lt;U&gt;the&lt;/U&gt; Chinese language such as Cantonese and Hokkinese.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Why the is needed before Chinese language? (It is just the first time we mention it.)&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;2)Tom: I have three pieces of advice.First........&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Mary: Thank you for &lt;U&gt;the&lt;/U&gt; advice. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"Advice" is uncountable noun. Why the is needed before this word?&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;P&gt;3)Tom :Wow! Which city did you like the best?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; Mary :I liked New York the best because there it has a lot of museums and shops to visit. I went to the headquaters of the United Nations, the statue of Liberty and &lt;U&gt;the &lt;/U&gt;Metropolitan Museum.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Why the is needed before Metropolitan Museum? Isn't it a proper noun?&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Lake, Mountain, Beach</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/LakeMountainBeach/4/bqzkr/Post.htm#163744</link><pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:17:01 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:163744</guid><dc:creator>paco2004</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Anonymous wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;Do you&amp;nbsp;figure out how "the" should be used there? It should not be because it is a collective noun. Are you saying we have to take&amp;nbsp;the phrase&amp;nbsp;as it is without asking why "the" is there because it's an idiomatic expression, Paco?&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; 
&lt;P class=MsoNormal&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Hello Hiro&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I am sorry but I have to say I might be wrong taking what OED is saying. To prepare to make an answer you, I've just now re-read OED's explanation about the etymology of "beach" and have noticed I might have misread the description. The dictionary rather says that "beach" was first used as an uncountable noun &lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;to mean the material on the seashore and later it began to be used as a noun indicating the place on the seashore that is covered with that material. "Walk on the beach" is an idiomatic phrase using "beach" in the latter sense.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I'll quote a part of the description in the OED.&lt;BR&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;beach&lt;/STRONG&gt;, n. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&lt;FONT color=#0000ff&gt;[Origin unknown: apparently at first a dialect word, meaning, as it still does in Sussex, Kent, and the adjacent counties, the shingle or pebbles worn by the waves. Thence the transference of the term to the place covered by âbeach,â was easy for those who heard such phrases as âto lieâ or âwalk on the beach,â without knowing the exact significance. The Fr. grÃ¨ve shows precisely the same transference. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR&gt;As to your question about the reason why "the" is used in the idiomatic phrase "walk on the beach", OED tells nothing. &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;paco&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>