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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Verbs tag:Negations' matching tags 'Verbs' and 'Negations'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aVerbs+tag%3aNegations</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Verbs tag:Negations' matching tags 'Verbs' and 'Negations'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3260.39585)</generator><item><title>Re: "have + object + to + verb"</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/HaveObjectToVerb/3/hbzjk/Post.htm#591168</link><pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 01:12:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:591168</guid><dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator><description>&lt;div id="post_message_36496"&gt;Folks, how would you read &amp;quot;Those are the letters I had to write&amp;quot;, as modal or non-modal?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, it seems the sense of necessity is obvious here, right?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;We only have ourselves to thank for not listening to her.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How about this? Any obligation/necessity/duty reading possible there?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;She hasn&amp;#39;t got anything to do today.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Does this simply mean &amp;quot;I own a pair of slippers&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;I&amp;#39;ve my slippers to put on.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Comments on this? Negation of necessity. Modal?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;Many natives think they&amp;#39;ve nothing to learn fron non-natives.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Verb + negative</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/VerbNegative/hrzhw/post.htm#586219</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:15:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:586219</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>When the negation applies to what follows, &amp;quot;can not&amp;quot; is appropriate:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;You can not show up if you really don&amp;#39;t want to go.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; [You may choose not to show up ...]&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;____&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sometimes people use &amp;quot;can not&amp;quot; when they want to emphasize the negation:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;You can NOT put the cat in the microwave!!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;____&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You will find &amp;quot;can not&amp;quot; in older writing as well.&amp;nbsp; But the historical tendency seems to have been toward &amp;quot;cannot&amp;quot;, so that now &amp;quot;cannot&amp;quot; is used almost all the time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;
CJ</description></item><item><title>Re: the difference between the main and auxiliary forms of have (negative) ?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DifferenceBetweenMainAuxiliaryForms-Negative/hrzbz/post.htm#586114</link><pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:48:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:586114</guid><dc:creator>Grammar Geek</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;parkerdrums&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Student has used have as a main and auxiliary verb, instead of have for the main and&amp;nbsp; do (negative) for the auxiliary.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the original, the student used &amp;quot;have&amp;quot; as the main verb - there is no aux. verb.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;parkerdrums&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Subject + do (neg) + frequency adverb + verb (aux) &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why do you have &amp;quot;(aux)&amp;quot; after &amp;quot;verb&amp;quot;?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Subject + correct form of &amp;quot;do&amp;quot; + negation + adverb + main verb, not &amp;quot;verb (aux)&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(But still: &lt;em&gt;I haven&amp;#39;t any idea &lt;/em&gt;is correct grammar. It doesn&amp;#39;t require the &amp;quot;I don&amp;#39;t have&amp;quot; form.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Need we say more?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/NeedWeSayMore/hrrld/post.htm#584837</link><pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:30:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:584837</guid><dc:creator>Jackson6612</dc:creator><description>Hi CB,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Cool Breeze&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;em&gt;To my home&lt;/em&gt; has nothing to do with verbs. &lt;em&gt;To&lt;/em&gt; is a preposition here. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Did I say it had anything to do with verbs? Yes, &lt;i&gt;to&lt;/i&gt; is a preposition but &lt;i&gt;to my home&lt;/i&gt; functions an infinitive object. Am I wrong?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Cool Breeze&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The auxiliary forms of&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;need&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;are used primarily in present-tense questions, negations, and &lt;strong&gt;conditional clauses&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Why &lt;i&gt;conditional clauses&lt;/i&gt;, why not simply &lt;i&gt;conditional sentence(s)&lt;/i&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Cool Breeze&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; In other words, &lt;strong&gt;auxiliary &lt;em&gt;need&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is normally not used in &lt;strong&gt;affirmative clauses&lt;/strong&gt; and therefore &lt;em&gt;to&lt;/em&gt; is used before &lt;strong&gt;the infinitive (to say)&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is &lt;i&gt;auxiliary need&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;modal need&lt;/i&gt; the same thing? &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;may&lt;/i&gt;, &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt;, etc. are auxiliaries verbs and at the same time modal verbs.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is &lt;i&gt;affirmative clause&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;assertive clause&lt;/i&gt; the same thing?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe infinitive has different definitions. Can both &lt;i&gt;say&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;to say&lt;/i&gt; be called infinitives? In the below given quoted text you have used two different definitions of infinitive, &lt;i&gt;say&lt;/i&gt; is an infinitive and &lt;i&gt;to say&lt;/i&gt; is also an infinitive.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Cool Breeze&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000bf;"&gt;To &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000bf;"&gt;is normally used before an infinitive after a verb: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000bf;"&gt;I want &lt;strong&gt;to&lt;/strong&gt; say it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000bf;"&gt; As &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000bf;"&gt;need&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000bf;"&gt; is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000bf;"&gt;not&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000bf;"&gt; an auxiliary in an affirmative clause, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000bf;"&gt;to&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000bf;"&gt; is neededbefore a verb after it: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#0000bf;"&gt;I need &lt;strong&gt;to&lt;/strong&gt; say it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Cool Breeze&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;To&lt;/em&gt; is normally not used before an infinitive after a &lt;strong&gt;defective/modal auxiliary verb&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;em&gt;I will/may/could/should say it.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What is defective/modal auxiliary verb?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sorry for asking you too many questions. I hope you will give a touch to all the above questions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks,&lt;br /&gt;Jackson</description></item><item><title>Re: Need we say more?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/NeedWeSayMore/hrrrd/post.htm#584650</link><pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:03:23 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:584650</guid><dc:creator>Cool Breeze</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Jackson6612&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 191);"&gt;Do we need to say more?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let me ask you few more questions. In &lt;i&gt;Will you come to my home today&lt;/i&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;font color="#ff0000"&gt;&lt;i&gt;to my home&lt;/i&gt; is infinitive object&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;But when &lt;i&gt;Do we need to say more&lt;/i&gt; is changed into affirmative statement &lt;i&gt;Do&lt;/i&gt; just disappears, &lt;i&gt;We need to say more&lt;/i&gt;. What is your explanation for this?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;i&gt;To my home&lt;/i&gt; has nothing to do with verbs. &lt;i&gt;To&lt;/i&gt; is a preposition here. An answer to your last question is given in a previous post: &amp;quot;&lt;span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);text-align:left;"&gt;The auxiliary forms of&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;are used primarily in present-tense questions, negations, and conditional clauses.&amp;quot; In other words, auxiliary &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; is normally &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; used in affirmative clauses and therefore &lt;i&gt;to&lt;/i&gt; is used before the infinitive (to say).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;To &lt;/i&gt;is normally used before an infinitive after a verb: &lt;i&gt;I want &lt;b&gt;to&lt;/b&gt; say it.&lt;/i&gt; As &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; is &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; an auxiliary in an affirmative clause, &lt;i&gt;to&lt;/i&gt; is neededbefore a verb after it: &lt;i&gt;I need &lt;b&gt;to&lt;/b&gt; say it.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;To&lt;/i&gt; is normally not used before an infinitive after a defective/modal auxiliary verb: &lt;i&gt;I will/may/could/should say it.&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CB &lt;br /&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Need we say more?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/NeedWeSayMore/gqqmz/post.htm#584567</link><pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:25:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:584567</guid><dc:creator>AlpheccaStars</dc:creator><description>&amp;nbsp;Jackson:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;#1 &amp;quot;do&amp;quot; is a verb. (auxiliary) not an adverb. &amp;quot;need&amp;quot; is the main&amp;nbsp; verb; the object is the infinitive phrase..(&amp;quot;need to&amp;quot; is synonymous with &amp;quot;have to&amp;quot;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;#2 say is the main verb, Need is an auxiliary verb. Like the auxiliaries can or may, it does not necessarily agree with the subject - Need he say more? (not &lt;u&gt;needs&lt;/u&gt;) &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The 2 sentences mean the same.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is from the dictionary &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);text-align:left;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Usage Note&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;: Depending on the sense, the verb&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;behaves sometimes like an auxiliary verb (such as&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;or&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;may&lt;/i&gt;) and sometimes like a main verb (such as&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;or&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;try&lt;/i&gt;). When used as a main verb,&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;agrees with its subject, takes&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;to&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;before the verb following it, and combines with&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;in questions, negations, and certain other constructions:&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;He needs to go. Does he need to go so soon? He doesn&amp;#39;t need to go.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;When used as an auxiliary verb,&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;does not agree with its subject, does not take&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;to&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;before the verb following it, and does not combine with&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;do:&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;He needn&amp;#39;t go. Need he go so soon?&lt;/i&gt;The auxiliary forms of&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;are used primarily in present-tense questions, negations, and conditional clauses. Unlike&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and&lt;i&gt;may,&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;auxiliary&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;has no form for the past tense like&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;could&lt;/i&gt;and&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;might.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: Double negation?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/DoubleNegation/gqxrr/post.htm#583780</link><pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:21:02 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:583780</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Anonymous&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Some people are telling me that this upcoming sentence is bad grammar because it&amp;#39;s using the word &amp;quot;not&amp;quot; twice. But is it really an example&amp;nbsp;of double negation, or is it all about the syntax of the sentence?&lt;br /&gt;The sentence is:&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;Did I not just tell you to not say that?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Post what you think. Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; This is not a double negation.&amp;nbsp; A double negation is two negatives in the &lt;u&gt;same&lt;/u&gt; clause!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Did I not just tell you&lt;/i&gt; is one clause.&amp;nbsp; The &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; applies to the verb &lt;i&gt;tell&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;to not say that &lt;/i&gt;is another clause.&amp;nbsp; The &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; applies to the verb &lt;i&gt;say&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(By the way, I would have rephrased it as &lt;i&gt;Didn&amp;#39;t I just tell you not to say that?&lt;/i&gt;)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Likewise, none of the following are double negatives.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I did&lt;u&gt;n&amp;#39;t&lt;/u&gt; say that John was&lt;u&gt;n&amp;#39;t&lt;/u&gt; at home.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;Nobody&lt;/u&gt; understood that we were &lt;u&gt;not&lt;/u&gt; supposed to stand there.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They &lt;u&gt;never&lt;/u&gt; tell us when they&amp;#39;re &lt;u&gt;not&lt;/u&gt; going to be on time.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Helen did &lt;u&gt;not&lt;/u&gt; object to their &lt;u&gt;not&lt;/u&gt; starting before 3 o&amp;#39;clock.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;u&gt;Not&lt;/u&gt; having an umbrella, Ken did &lt;u&gt;not&lt;/u&gt; go out into the rain.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bill would&lt;u&gt;n&amp;#39;t&lt;/u&gt; promise us &lt;u&gt;not&lt;/u&gt; to do it again.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We&amp;#39;re uncertain.&amp;nbsp; We didn&amp;#39;t decide to go, and we did&lt;u&gt;n&amp;#39;t&lt;/u&gt; decide &lt;u&gt;not&lt;/u&gt; to go.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The authorities are &lt;u&gt;not&lt;/u&gt; asking people &lt;u&gt;not&lt;/u&gt; to use that road; they&amp;#39;re just asking people to be careful.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: Meg forced June not to swim.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/MegForcedJuneNotToSwim/gqjpk/post.htm#582600</link><pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:22:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:582600</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Avangi&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Is there a &amp;quot;not to&amp;quot; solution for these?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; Hi, Avangi!&amp;nbsp; I&amp;#39;m not sure what you mean by &amp;quot;solution&amp;quot;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You mean a paraphrase of the originals that uses &amp;quot;not to&amp;quot;, I suppose.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I find both examples to be &amp;quot;borderline grammatical&amp;quot; as is.&amp;nbsp; They seem syntactically sound, but semantically anomalous.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;To my ear, the verb &amp;quot;force&amp;quot; suggests a positive impulse toward the accomplishment of some goal.&amp;nbsp; The negative goal implied by &amp;quot;not to&amp;quot; seems to contradict this basic meaning of &amp;quot;force&amp;quot;.&amp;nbsp; Maybe a little research in a thesaurus would turn up a verb that is more appropriate semantically and yet accepts the negative infinitive syntactically, but off-hand, I don&amp;#39;t know of one.&amp;nbsp; Most verbs of &amp;quot;forceful blocking&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;forceful barring&amp;quot; of actions take the &lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;from&lt;/i&gt; + gerund&amp;quot; construction.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As for wanting the non-completion of actions, English almost always &amp;quot;raises the negation&amp;quot; into the main clause -- hence, the scarcity of constructions like &amp;quot;want (someone) not to ...&amp;quot;, and the great frequency of &amp;quot;not want (someone) to ...&amp;quot;, which are sematically equivalent.&amp;nbsp; (Incidentally, &lt;i&gt;think&lt;/i&gt; operates the same way, as you probably already know.)&amp;nbsp; Semantically, &lt;i&gt;prefer&lt;/i&gt; is not exactly the same as &lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt;, but it will take a negative infinitive:&amp;nbsp; &lt;i&gt;Meg preferred June not to swim.&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp; (Nevertheless, &lt;i&gt;... preferred that she not swim&lt;/i&gt; is also a&amp;nbsp; frequent choice -- though not the construction you&amp;#39;re looking for.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: to not or not to</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/ToNotOrNotTo/gpqzl/post.htm#579541</link><pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:51:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:579541</guid><dc:creator>CalifJim</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Davidrock65&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I want him not to come anywhere closer near my daughter = I don&amp;#39;t want him to come anywhere closer near my daughter?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Which is more often used?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; In English the negation is raised to the main clause in almost all cases where the main verb is &lt;i&gt;think&lt;/i&gt;&amp;nbsp;or &lt;i&gt;want&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I don&amp;#39;t think he is ready,&lt;/i&gt; usually not &lt;i&gt;I think he is not ready.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I didn&amp;#39;t want him to come closer, &lt;/i&gt;usually not&lt;i&gt; I wanted him not to come closer.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp;</description></item><item><title>Re: tense</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/Tense/glvpj/post.htm#556589</link><pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:01:50 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:556589</guid><dc:creator>Newguest</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;CalifJim&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/englishforums/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Newguest&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; 
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So is it a good example to say: I&amp;#39;m looking in the sky and say &amp;quot;Oh I think it will rain&amp;quot; (but I may be wrong)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;OR &amp;quot;I think he won&amp;#39;t come&amp;quot; but he may come.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; The negation is raised into the main clause for the verbs &lt;i&gt;think &lt;/i&gt;and&lt;i&gt; believe&lt;/i&gt;, so your possibilities are as follows:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;It [will / won&amp;#39;t] rain.&amp;nbsp; (I&amp;#39;m sure of it.)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CJ&amp;nbsp; 
&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can you be sure of it if you use &amp;quot;will&amp;quot;?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;how about the second part of my question:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which is better:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are sending emails to each other from time to time&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We send emails to each other from time to time&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;thank you CJ&lt;/p&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>