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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Search results for 'tag:Vowels tag:Determiners' matching tags 'Vowels' and 'Determiners'</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=tag%3aVowels+tag%3aDeterminers&amp;tag=Vowels,Determiners&amp;orTags=0</link><description>Search results for 'tag:Vowels tag:Determiners' matching tags 'Vowels' and 'Determiners'</description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CSMOD (Build: 3232.18851)</generator><item><title>Re: a/an and the.</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AAnAndThe/vxhhl/post.htm#405019</link><pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:14:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:405019</guid><dc:creator>GL2</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;The rule with &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;a&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; and &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;an&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; is that you use &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;a&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; when the word that follows it starts with a consonant sound, and you use &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;an&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; when the word that follows it starts with a vowel sound.&amp;nbsp; You probably knew that given you used &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;an&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; correctly in your sentence, but I thought I'd mention that for others who may read this.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;A&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;, &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;an&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; and &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;the&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; are all articles.&amp;nbsp; They're also called limiting adjectives, noun markers or noun determiners.&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;A&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; and &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;an&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; limit a noun less than &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;the&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; does:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;A&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; plan."&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;The&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; plan."&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In your sample sentence, you could use either &lt;STRONG&gt;a&lt;/STRONG&gt;/&lt;STRONG&gt;an&lt;/STRONG&gt; or &lt;STRONG&gt;the&lt;/STRONG&gt; in all of the blanks, and the sentence would still be correct.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"We live in &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;an&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; old house near &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;a&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; train station.&amp;nbsp; It is two miles from &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;a&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; city center."&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"We live in &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;the &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;old house near &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;the &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;train station.&amp;nbsp; It is two miles from &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;the &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;city center."&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Both sentences are grammatically correct.&amp;nbsp; The sentence that uses &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;the&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; is more specific about which old house, train station and city center the speaker/writer is referring to.&amp;nbsp; If you were talking to someone from your city who was familiar with the area and had seen your house before (but didn't know you lived there) and had seen the train station before and knew where the city center was located, you could use &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;the&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&amp;nbsp; If you were talking to someone who was completely unfamiliar with your city and the buildings in it, you would use &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;a&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;/&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;an&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;The&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; makes reference to specific&amp;nbsp;items, and its use assumes the listener/reader has familiarity with those items.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Not to complicate matters, but&amp;nbsp;you could get away with using &lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;the&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt; with &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;city center&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt; even if the listener/reader was unfamiliar with your city.&amp;nbsp; With &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;the&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;, you're refering to not just any city center but the specific city center corresponding to the area where the house and station are located.&amp;nbsp; If that's too confusing, then ignore this last paragraph and just follow the rules outlined above.&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Limiting &amp;quot;the&amp;quot;</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/LimitingThe/ddppj/post.htm#269901</link><pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:36:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:269901</guid><dc:creator>Alienvoord</dc:creator><description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;table width="85%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="txt4"&gt;&lt;img src="/Themes/default/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;strong&gt;Jargonaut wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class="quoteTable"&gt;&lt;table width="100%"&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td width="100%" valign="top" class="txt4"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Remember that while we call words like "the" and "an" (or "a" in this case as the "n" is dropped when before a vowel sound) articles, they are limiting adjectives.&amp;nbsp; "The" is a contracted form of the demonstrative "that", and "an", or "a", is a contracted form of "one" (from the Anglo-Saxon "ane" or "an").&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You might be right in your etymology of "the" and "a", but etymologies are not definitions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Saying that "the" is a contraction of "that" and "a" is a contraction of "one" doesn't make sense in terms of grammar. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;"the" and "a" are &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determiner" target="_blank" title="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determiner"&gt;determiners&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Why is it?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyIsIt/clqjr/post.htm#225862</link><pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 13:26:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:225862</guid><dc:creator>Believer</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Let me ask you one direct question&amp;nbsp;that could help to settle my confusion.&amp;nbsp;This might be a "Yes or No"&amp;nbsp;question but you are welcome to expand your explanation.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Does&amp;nbsp; a native speaker&amp;nbsp; have an option that can be exercised freely on the aspect of whether or not to display those chracteristics of the physics of vocalization as he/she seemed fit regardless&amp;nbsp;which&amp;nbsp;sound, a vowel or a consonant, the words he/she has&amp;nbsp;produce initially?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In other words, eventhough it will be hard to swallow this, &amp;nbsp;it really doesn't matter&amp;nbsp;whether to pronounce with a hard "e" or a schewa when one is pronouncing the determiner "the" in front of the word with an initial vowel sound because&amp;nbsp;it&amp;nbsp;will be &amp;nbsp;up to him at the moment of his speaking to decide when and how&amp;nbsp;he will make the&amp;nbsp; sound of the determiner "the." &lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Why is it?</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyIsIt/clxgz/post.htm</link><pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 05:46:58 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:225238</guid><dc:creator>Believer</dc:creator><description>&lt;P&gt;I was listening to an audio file&amp;nbsp;in the Internet and have noticed that eventhough the standard rule is that the article "the" is pronounced like "Di" and not "thu" of "thus" when it is in front of a vowel-sounding word,&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I am pretty sure that I heard the speaker of that file making the "Di" sound when&amp;nbsp;the determiners are&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; in front of&amp;nbsp;vowel-sounding words. Why is that?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Help.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The sentences I heard the speaker making the "Di" sound.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffa500"&gt;The &lt;/FONT&gt;older will serve the younger.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;... and &lt;FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffa500"&gt;the &lt;/FONT&gt;one who trusts in him will never be put to shame.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description></item><item><title>Another or an another</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AnotherOrAnAnother/cwjbr/post.htm</link><pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:54:24 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:208964</guid><dc:creator>Rotter</dc:creator><description>&lt;br&gt;
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1. He eats an apple.&lt;br&gt;
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2. He eats another apple.&lt;br&gt;
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3. He eats an another apple.&lt;br&gt;
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I know the third sentence is flawed. However, the words starts with a vowel needs the determiner 'an'.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
To say ' He eats a apple' is incorrect.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The word 'apple' is already defined by the determiner 'another'.
Therefore, you don't need an extra determiner. I don't think the word
'another' is a noun. This is my understanding. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I maybe wrong. I appreciate your comments on this. &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: An versus a</title><link>http://www.englishforums.com/English/AnVersusA/cbxl/post.htm#10364</link><pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:16:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="true">946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:10364</guid><dc:creator>wumanfu</dc:creator><description>Hi, you asked&lt;br /&gt;Which is the correct usage please:&lt;br /&gt;" I have ordered a / an MRI (magnetic resonance scan) and will review the patient following this."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Rule: With single letters and groups of letters that are pronounced as individual letters, be guided by the pronunciation: a B road, a TUC leader; but an A road, an FA Cup match, an SAS unit (assuming the abbreviations are not mentally expanded to their full forms, which would alter the " &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Answer&lt;br /&gt;I have ordered an MRIâ¦&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Reference&lt;br /&gt;"a"  Pocket Fowler's Modern English Usage&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a, an,   called the indefinite article (or, by some grammarians, determiner). In origin, a and its by-form an are versions of the Old English an meaning&lt;br /&gt;âoneâ. (1) Before all normal words or diphthongs an is required (an actor, an eagle, an illness, an Old Master, an uncle). Before a syllable beginning&lt;br /&gt;in its written form with a vowel but pronounced with a consonantal sound, a is used (a eulogy, a unit, a use; a one, a once-only). Before all consonants&lt;br /&gt;except silent h, a is usual: a book, a history, a home, a household name, a memorial service, a puddle, a young man; but, with silent h, an hour, an honour.&lt;br /&gt;â¦&lt;br /&gt;With single letters and groups of letters that are pronounced as individual letters, be guided by the pronunciation: a B&lt;br /&gt;road, a TUC leader; but an A road, an FA Cup match, an SAS unit (assuming the abbreviations are not mentally expanded to their full forms, which would&lt;br /&gt;alter the&lt;br /&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>