http://www.englishforums.com/search/pro.htm?q=user%3aMy2sense&o=DateDescendingSearch results for 'user:My2sense'en-USXMOD (Build: 3616.28671)http://www.englishforums.com/English/ClamDownDoesExist/cchjh/post.htm#179102Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:20:08 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:179102my2senseJapan on DPRK Shellfish Boycott Japan Times (" JAPAN COULD ' CLAM DOWN ' ON N. KOREA ", 2005-01-20) reported that Japan's powerful diplomatic weapon against the DPRK could be a humble shellfish, if Japan chooses to stop eating them, a citizens' group said Wednesday. Japan regularly imports tons of "asari" clams from the reclusive state. Boycotting asari imports could help Japan find out what happened to citizens abducted by the DPRK and the clams could instead feed starving DPRK citizens, the group said.http://www.englishforums.com/English/ClamDownDoesExist/cchjh/post.htm#179091Wed, 04 Jan 2006 23:05:10 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:179091my2senseCould you mean calm down or clam p down? I can't think of anything else except clam up i.e. refuse to talk.http://www.englishforums.com/English/AJobInWithForAt/cczmn/post.htm#178910Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:10:30 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:178910my2sensePieanne wrote: Thank you, Ikia. Anyway, you can't work "in" Microsoft, "at" would be difficult - they have so many offices -, and "with" , as you say, is better than "for" My uncertainty was related to the rest of the message. You can use either with or athttp://www.englishforums.com/English/WhatDifferenceBetweenUniversity-College/ccgjv/post.htm#178909Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:05:22 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:178909my2senseAmerican Heritage ® Dictionary University An institution for higher learning with teaching and research facilities constituting a graduate school and professional schools that award master's degrees and doctorates and an undergraduate division that awards bachelor's degrees. College An institution of higher learning that grants the bachelor's degree in liberal arts or science or both. An undergraduate division or school of a university offering courses and granting degrees in a particular field. A school, sometimes but not always a university, offering special instruction in professional or technical subjects.http://www.englishforums.com/English/2ExpressionsHaventAble-Find/ccgqb/post.htm#178907Wed, 04 Jan 2006 13:01:12 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:178907my2senseMcaleck wrote: Hi everyone, I'm looking for two words/expressions I've searched for high and low but haven't been able to find. Actually I'm not even sure they exist in English. Can you please help? 1. in long distance running there's supposed to be a point when the runner does not feel tired anymore, and just goes on like a machine. what do you call that point? I believe second wind/ ( runner's high )http://www.englishforums.com/English/Z28/ccrzh/post.htm#177130Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:06:42 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:177130my2senseQ4: Z-28= is a car--- one of the models called Camaro made by Chevorlethttp://www.englishforums.com/English/MormonReligion/bmjlj/post.htm#177064Sat, 31 Dec 2005 13:06:11 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:177064my2senseAnonymous wrote: Well, to be fair, they DO believe in something that has no supporting evidence. Joseph Smith Jr. translated the book of Mormon into English. But because the angel 'Maroni' told him he couldn't show the original book of Mormon to anyone else, nobody ever saw the original book. As a result, Smith translated from the book that was behind a sheet. After the book was entirely translated, the publisher 'lost' them, and Smith said that the angel, in his anger, took the original book away for over a year. Is it just me, or is this a really difficult faith to believe? A lot of people will tell you "you have to have faith", but this goes true for EVERY religion, some of which have very strong backing evidence. I was raised as a...http://www.englishforums.com/English/AlternativeSwearWords/5/bzzqq/Post.htm#177052Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:43:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:177052my2senseThe Origins and Common Usage of British Swear-words http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A753527http://www.englishforums.com/English/ErrorsMistakesInLanguage/cbvnk/post.htm#177023Sat, 31 Dec 2005 11:25:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:177023my2senseSam C wrote: Philip wrote: I think of the beautiful Elizabethan language in the prayer "we have erred and strayed like lost sheep": does this mean that the errant sinner has no chance because he is likely to repeat his sins, even worse that he doesn't know what his sins are? yes, i'll stake money on it, if you, Philip, can find me an elizabethan linguist specialising in error analysis. sam, to err is human I'll second that Sam.http://www.englishforums.com/English/Dutch/cbprw/post.htm#176708Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:27:52 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:176708my2senseKhoff wrote: Hiro - maybe this is what your dictionary is referring to: There is a group in people in the U.S. called the Pennsylvania Dutch -- they are Amish and Mennonites originally from Germany who settled in Pennsylvania. They refer to themselves and the language they speak as "Deutsch" (German), but the local people heard this as "Dutch," so the popular term for them became "Pennsylvania Dutch." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish#Dresshttp://www.englishforums.com/English/AndOr/cbqcl/post.htm#176673Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:22:13 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:176673my2senseDiamondrg wrote: Paco2004 wrote: "She neither smokes nor drinks." paco interesting!!! now I really wonder which one a native would use or rather prefer. a) She doesn't drink or smoke or b) She neither drinks nor smokes. The first one....http://www.englishforums.com/English/OnDataPronunciation/kzkl/post.htm#176449Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:05:09 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:176449my2senseAnonymous wrote: A Psychology professor at UC Berkeley said that dah-ta (like "dad") is the singular, while day-ta (like "today") is the plural. In other words, you would say "these day-ta", but "this dah-ta." I haven't heard this from any other source, and I've also heard another Psychology professor at UC Berkeley say "day-ta" for singular. When I've worked with people who process data on a regular basis (in Psychology research labs), we almost always use the plural form, so I haven't had much chance to see how someone would pronounce the singular form. Honestly, this is some petty stuff that doesn't matter, though it's one of those things that makes you curious because you want to know what is "correct". I have the same...http://www.englishforums.com/English/AreIntelligentWomen/18/vphq/Post.htm#176089Thu, 29 Dec 2005 14:10:41 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:176089my2senseAn interesting article about this subject. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-01/uoc--iim012005.phphttp://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyMerciless/cbxdm/post.htm#176066Thu, 29 Dec 2005 13:17:30 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:176066my2senseVille_maddengurl wrote: the people are soo merciless! i wanna know!whyyyyyy!!!?????? Which people do you mean? All people? A certain group of people?http://www.englishforums.com/English/SuccessfullyEscaped/cbvxc/post.htm#175617Wed, 28 Dec 2005 18:28:01 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:175617my2senseMatress, I never gave it a thought until I read your post. I'm glad you shared this. Thanks!http://www.englishforums.com/English/CannotCanNot/blzmv/post.htm#175504Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:30:28 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:175504my2sensePieanne wrote: "Can not" is never correct; it's either "can't" or "cannot". ." The only context in which can not , two words, occurs is as an emphatic alternative: "You can do it, or you can not do it." In that case, it is clearly two separately spoken words, with the not given special emphasis, and equally clearly it means something very different from cannot , namely "have the option of not (doing something)."http://www.englishforums.com/English/BaggageRoom/cbmbl/post.htm#175456Wed, 28 Dec 2005 09:48:43 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:175456my2senseItasan wrote: baggage room Is this a room where your belongings are kept? At a hotel or a train station? Thank you. Baggage room a place at a train/bus station, airport, hotel, etc. where you can put your bags for a short time until you need themhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/GunsInOurSociety/5/bdzzr/Post.htm#175455Wed, 28 Dec 2005 09:42:48 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:175455my2senseIavor wrote: I'd hold up as an example some facts about the autonomious state called Lightenstein.(it's situated alongside France) It's population is less than a milion and crimes are almost unheard-of there. Therefore guns are rarity simply because people don't need them. I believe you mean Liechtenstein a principality situated between Austria and Switzerland with a population of about 34,000.http://www.englishforums.com/English/CoatCheck/2/cbjbg/Post.htm#174952Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:25:58 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:174952my2senseWwwdotcom wrote: "This is but another meaning of cloakroom/ cloak room" Are you saying the 2 words are different from one another, if so how? Are you saying the 2 words mean the same, and this is a second meaning of both? If so, how is the second meaning different from the first? PLEASE, same person reply, not a new one each time ROFL, sounds like I am talking to a team instead of one person. I am trying to understand one person's reasoning and when they leave out one detail like the difference here, and then it goes on to another tangent, nothing gets accomplished. So, either respond with what the difference is or please don't respond. "Where does it say this? It doesn't say this but implies it. A coat could be left in the coat...http://www.englishforums.com/English/GroupNounCollectiveNounNoun-Multitude/cbkvq/post.htm#174941Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:47:13 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:174941my2senseHi, These may be of some help: esl.about.com/library/vocabulary/bl1000_ list _noun1.htm http://www2.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/crump.htm http://www.english-zone.com/grammar/noncount2.htmlhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/CoatCheck/2/cbjbg/Post.htm#174916Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:15:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:174916my2senseThey use "cloak room" with a space at http://www.courts.state.ny.us/ctapps/counsguide.htm "A cloak room is located behind the Attorneys’ Library, next to the elevator." This is but another meaning of cloakroom/ cloak room- a room adjacent to a legislative chamber or legislative room, where legislators may leave their coats, relax, or engage in informal conversation Where does it say this? It doesn't say this but implies it. A coat could be left in the coat check that has no attendant however, for the most part, it is common for this room to be attended by someone.http://www.englishforums.com/English/SomeoneSomebody/2/cbvmz/Post.htm#174744Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:25:56 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:174744my2senseYoHf wrote: Anonymous wrote: Ruslana wrote: I see. As far as I understand I should also use anybody/anyone in the sentences like this: "There is not anybody/anyone waiting for me at the snack-bar". Thank you very much! I Think it is much appropriate to use nobody/noone. "There is nobody/noone waiting for me at the snackbar." Noone doesn't exist at all... Hi YoHf, It does exist but it is written as two words: no one No one is waiting for me at the snack bar. ( By the way snack bar is written as two words ).</FONThttp://www.englishforums.com/English/CellPhoneVoiceMailCouldntAble-AttendCall/cbjhq/post.htm#174704Mon, 26 Dec 2005 21:43:24 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:174704my2senseRkwebmail wrote: Hi, I stored voice mail as follows " I couldn't able to attend your call, please leave your message, i will get back to you asap". Here, Can i use "I couldn't able to" Is it wrong ?. Please let me know. Thank You, No, couldn't cannot be used here. Try this: I am not able to take your call please leave a message and I will get back to you as soon as possible.http://www.englishforums.com/English/Show/cbhxx/post.htm#174646Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:51:51 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:174646my2sensePhuongninhbao wrote: Shows is right, but it's very rude. I think you should add an another word: Phuong Ninh Shows is perfectly fine to use in the sentence....it's not rude at all.http://www.englishforums.com/English/SaveBoringEnglishGrammarBook/crlkq/post.htm#174643Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:43:47 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:174643my2senseAnonymous wrote: Is there any good books on English grammar? I am thinking of self-learning since this would be more convenience then attending a class. In addition, we can always participate in good internet forums such as this to make the learning process more fun. The question is, is there any book that really tell you why you need to know that bit of thing in grammar rather than telling you what it is. I am looking at the application side of it rather than just knowing it. Most book I browse through appeared to be dry and just factual. I saw a book in amazon.com with the title "Complete Idiot's Guide to Grammar and Style," by Laurie E. Rosakis and also "English Grammar for Dummies," by Geraldine Woods . The reviews on the...http://www.englishforums.com/English/SomeoneSomebody/cbvmz/post.htm#174546Mon, 26 Dec 2005 11:36:16 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:174546my2senseAnonymous wrote: Ruslana wrote: I see. As far as I understand I should also use anybody/anyone in the sentences like this: "There is not anybody/anyone waiting for me at the snack-bar". Thank you very much! I Think it is much appropriate to use nobody/ noone . "There is nobody/ noone waiting for me at the snackbar." FYI (for your information) It is written no one --- two seperate words. ;-)http://www.englishforums.com/English/IWishIWasWereThere/3/bzvrw/Post.htm#174062Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:14:53 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:174062my2senseFor some interesting information regarding subjunctive and indicative mood take a look at this site. http://www.bartleby.com/64/C001/061.htmlhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/PrepositionsExamples/cbvnn/post.htm#173725Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:52:12 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:173725my2sensePaco2004 wrote: Danyoo I think "an old man in a red hat" is OK. It's just because native speakers say so quite frequently. Am I wrong? paco It's ok to use. You see that guy over there? Which guy? The guy in the red hat.http://www.englishforums.com/English/PropperUseOfTheAAndAn/cbzvx/post.htm#173723Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:48:59 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:173723my2sensehttp://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/esl/eslart.htmlhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/ErrorsMistakesInLanguage/cbvnk/post.htm#173718Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:22:09 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:173718my2sensePhilip wrote: Amatoolah wrote: Hello everybody, please i have a question concerning errors . could you plssibly tell me what is the difference between error, mistake , and fault . How can a teacher deal with these errors thank you in advance . For me, 'error' and 'mistake' are interchangeable. 'Fault' is slightly different, usually used to assign blame . There is a distinction between error and mistake in linguistics. Simply said: A mistake i.e. a slip of the tongue can be self-corrected and an error cannot. An error is systematic i.e. likely to occur repeatedly and not recognized (known) by the learner.http://www.englishforums.com/English/WhatAboutGermany/9/cmcl/Post.htm#173481Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:28:45 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:173481my2sensePemmican wrote: Wow, this was an interesting post, "english-test"! But let me make a few additions to your thoughts: &gt;&gt;When discussing cultural differences between nations I think we should always bear in mind a number of things: - people have much more in common than sets them apart regardless of their nationality - there is never such a thing as the 'the Americans, the Russians and the French etc'. - cross cultural discussions often are based on stereotypes and assumptions That's been clear from the very beginning - but it was also the kinds of stereotypical thoughts I wanted to know... &gt;&gt; the vast majority of the movies they watch in cinemas are US American, (as are most TV shows and films) yet, the Germans dub...http://www.englishforums.com/English/OverTheCounter/cbzck/post.htm#173473Fri, 23 Dec 2005 10:01:37 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:173473my2senseBehnazzz wrote: Around 250,000 copies have been sold over the counter , with the rest bought as downloads. Hi What are the meanings of over the counter and rest bought? About 250,000 copies have been bought in a store = ( over the counter - the place in the store where you pay for the product). The rest were sold over the Internet. Perhaps there was a total of 300,000 copies produced- the rest would be 50,000 that were sold as downloads. 350-250= 50...http://www.englishforums.com/English/LyingOrLaying/cbvhv/post.htmThu, 22 Dec 2005 14:13:56 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:173234my2senseLay is an active verb: it implies that somebody is setting or placing something somewhere. Ex: He will lay the book on the table. Lie is a "still" verb Ex: You lie in a bed.http://www.englishforums.com/English/Loaf/cbdcc/post.htm#172874Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:06:07 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:172874my2senseDiamondrg wrote: - a loaf of bread - two loaves of bread, please. do you really use this in everyday speech, in a bakery, for example? Yep, it is used in everyday speech.http://www.englishforums.com/English/SmokyTheBear/bqvbz/post.htm#163395Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:50:55 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:163395my2senseMaybe of interest to you Behnazz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smokey_the_Bearhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/WhyDoesCauseDestruction/16/bdzpj/Post.htm#163373Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:54:31 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:163373my2senseTeacherBrian wrote: The question implies that the one who asks it believes in God . (e.g. The question "What type of cheese is the moon made of?" implies that the questioner believes the moon is made of cheese. ( It is made of gruyere, actually !)) So the question starts with an assumption, but is that assumption valid? Before we even begin to think about the question then, we need to know if the writer believes in god. If they believe that there is no god, then it is not an intellectually honest question. P.S. I have not read the whole thread because it is very long . If the writer has clarified the assumption inherent in the question, I should be grateful if someone would tell me where it is and I will take it from...http://www.englishforums.com/English/Tip/bqckz/post.htm#163367Sun, 27 Nov 2005 12:24:30 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:163367my2senseAs Nona has said to tip ( a little extra money ) someone like a waiter in a cafe for doing a good job. To give 'someone' a tip can also mean:. to give someone (some) advice or a helpful hint about something - I can give you a tip about this stock or I've got some great tips about inexpensive places to stay in Paris.http://www.englishforums.com/English/HowWouldDefineNativeSpeakerEnglish/3/xwmc/Post.htm#163356Sun, 27 Nov 2005 10:57:25 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:163356my2senseAn interesting paper discussing this very question: http://neptune.spaceports.com/~words/native.htmlhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/DoAndDoes/bqcnm/post.htm#162987Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:58:21 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:162987my2senseDubai Girl wrote: What is the difference between " do " and " does " and i want examples please .. I would like is nicer to say ... ;-) I do, you do I do the housework and you do the homework. he/she/it does The boy (he) does his homework. The girl does her homework. The computer(it) does not work. It does not work. we/they do We do a lot of homework for this class. They don't do a lot of homework for their class.http://www.englishforums.com/English/Nudism/3/jcjx/Post.htm#162944Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:26:14 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:162944my2senseAnonymous wrote: I re-read what you wrote, but I'm afraid it still says to me that a baby is born with knowledge. Could you please explain to me what innate knowledge you are claiming we are born with? As far as I know, we are born with the ability , or potential , to learn (things like language, for example), but not with actual knowledge of language. As I suggested, please look into what Chompsky has written. Further you can read what Pinker has written as well. Anyhow, IMHO I don't agree that 'man' is born ignorant as you wrote. This, of course, is only an opinion and does not mean that it is necessarily right or wrong. My2sense wrote: Are you seriously trying to say that education goes as far as learning morals? ...http://www.englishforums.com/English/LodgingOrDorm/2/bqbbd/Post.htm#162899Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:57:26 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:162899my2senseHly2004 wrote: Oh:-) I remember It's Ross Gellar and Monica Geller 's apartment but for Joey and Chandler Bing, I guess it's their lodging, right?(supposing they have to pay ) Joey and Chandler live in an apartmenthttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LodgingOrDorm/2/bqbbd/Post.htm#162865Sat, 26 Nov 2005 07:32:36 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:162865my2senseHly2004 wrote: How should I call the place where the "Friends"(sitcom) live? Hly2004, They live in apartments in an apartment building . apartment in the USA flat in GBhttp://www.englishforums.com/English/Nudism/3/jcjx/Post.htm#162640Fri, 25 Nov 2005 17:18:35 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:162640my2senseAnonymous wrote: My2sense wrote: Rhetor wrote: We are born naked so its not unnatural. We are also born ignorant. Ignorance is also natural, but we don't wish to remain that way. Hmmm, I have to disagree with you on this. Are you sure that we are born ignorant? I don't think so. I will concede that new borns lack education but certainly not knowledge. When education comes we learn values e.g. moral values. I would argue that these values prejudice us sometimes i.e. nudity is acceptable or nudity is not acceptable. Bear this in mind it is not about right or wrong. What??? You're not serious are you? Exactly what knowledge are we born with except for a few basic instincts?? Are you...http://www.englishforums.com/English/VeryMuchMany/bqbkq/post.htm#162623Fri, 25 Nov 2005 16:19:24 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:162623my2senseAnonymous wrote: a)There are much many apples. many b)There are very many apples. many c)There is more many apples are many more d)There is many much paper on the table. Correct is: There are many paper s on the table. e)There is very much paper s on the table. are many paper s There is more much paper s on the table. are many more paper s Do Are these four sentences right? What is the different between a,b and c?(d),(e) and (f)? e)There is are much/many more apples on the table than on the floor. &lt;&lt; much, many or both are right? arehttp://www.englishforums.com/English/LodgingOrDorm/bqbbd/post.htm#162618Fri, 25 Nov 2005 16:05:55 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:162618my2senseHly2004 "is there a common room in a dormitory?" I suppose there could be.http://www.englishforums.com/English/VeryMany/2/bpvll/Post.htm#162573Fri, 25 Nov 2005 13:59:17 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:162573my2senseMore natural is 'I met a lot of people at the party'. 'Very many' does not work here. 'Many' is mainly used in the negative. I think Clive is simply saying that it may be more typical (mainly as he writes) to use very many in the negative. He didn't mean that it cannot be used at all e.g. there are very many people that...http://www.englishforums.com/English/DefiningStandardEnglish/bqrdc/post.htm#162570Fri, 25 Nov 2005 13:47:29 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:162570my2senseMy2sense wrote: Hi all, What is Standard English ( or is it standard English ) ? How do you define it? Is there a Standard English? I was hoping that this would generate some kind of well thought out debate ....http://www.englishforums.com/English/PersonsPeople/bqbvn/post.htm#162554Fri, 25 Nov 2005 13:08:10 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:162554my2senseTiratum wrote: Hi, Could anyone explain to me the difference between persons and people ? Under what situation should we use the word " persons "? thank you! People - Over 1 billion people live in India. There are many people learning English. I saw 8 people at the cafe. Peoples- There are many peoples that live on the African continent. Persons- Typically used in legal contexts. For example: Missing persons, X country can extradite persons for breaking certain laws, Persons owning stock in a company are called shareholders, etc. etc.http://www.englishforums.com/English/IdiomVsProverbs/bqbbr/post.htm#162446Fri, 25 Nov 2005 08:04:20 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:162446my2senseFrom the Cambridge dictionary- Idiom a group of words in a fixed order that have a particular meaning that is different from the meanings of each word understood on its own: Proverb a short sentence, etc., usually known by many people, stating something commonly experienced or giving advice:http://www.englishforums.com/English/ZipAndZipUp/bqrqn/post.htm#162444Fri, 25 Nov 2005 07:54:37 GMT946f00bb-57d3-4b7b-a9a2-059b5341af52:162444my2senseHly2004 wrote: zip means "fasten with a zip" my question is when to choose "zip" instead of "zip up" and when "zip up" is better than "zip"? Maybe you can provide a few examples? Zip up your jacket because it's really cold outside. Don't forget to zip up. Zip it tight! Zip it shut. ( like a tent for example )