hi everyone, as you see i am new in this forum. In addition, my English is not so good so forgive me on any mistake i do.

Dear members and guests, i have been attracted by a Great topic by a great writer which is ( Apostates in the Islamic World ) by my friend YoungCalifornia ( well done YoungCalifornia ). i have noticed many answers for this question and many and many people who couldn't accept the showed answers . Therfore, i have searched for the answer, and i got it

The answer simply is the follwing : on way to creata bad stereo types on certain product, is to buy this product and say to your freind and the people that here i bought the product, but it was really really bad. in this way some people will believe him so they won't even try to buy it ( did you get it )

i will be cleare: one way to creat bad setreo types on an idea, is to act like he did the idea, but he found it a bad idea and he begins to warn people from trying this idea. the result, people will hate it and won't even think to try it

i think now the idea is clear to you. in real word : Bad ( or worse) stereo types will be created on Islam by someone by acting like did really join this releigon and because the bad things that he found, he converted. In this way, some people will hate Islam because of this man.the people will say ( this man was a muslim and he knew all what Islam about, he knew everything about it and then he left it) the reasonable explanation for his attitude is that it is a bad relegion because if it is good, he won't convert. because of this reason, Islam make the punishment of this sin is a serious one, preventing something like this to happen. FYI: this punishment was applied in Islam after many things like this did happen during Prophet Mohammed days. and this is a fact.



if you still not convinced, let me tell you something. if the Islam not a peacful relegion and not ..... etc, why it is okay for us to mary non-muslim people ??????? and why we MUST let those non-muslim people do all their relegois customs as they want? without any intrepting or any thing??



I hope I answered on your question and the others by this answer. and by the way, i respect your opinion, your question and your discussion



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Welcome to English Forums, Alasiri, and thank you for taking the trouble to share your thoughts with us!

MrP
thanks AL-Asiri

for explaining your idea

and you know what !!

we are Muslims and still following THE Prophet's attitude

still we are reading The Holy Qura'an

Thank God

and we know how to be good Muslims!!
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Perhaps I misunderstand you, Alasiri, but the possibility of an apostate criticizing Islam is not even close to an acceptable reason for punishing someone choosing to leave behind that faith, in my opinion. I am of the belief that people all over the world have the right to determine their own beliefs and feelings, and to express those sentiments as they wish. Their views may offend some, but those upset people have the right to then voice their own opinions in contrast.
well, MR. YoungCalifornian, i respect your point of view. but, as you know, everyone has his thoughts and his beleives. in addition, everyone looks to life with different angle. And that is the reason that makes me choose Islam and makes you choose your relegion Emotion: big smile

bye man and thank to everyone who shared his thoughts with me
From my readings about Islam, there is no punishment for apostasy mentioned in the Quran, the primary source of that religion, but in the second source, the hadiths, that are the sayings of the prophet Muhammad recorded centuries after his death through a chaine of narrations.

Thus, I understand for the muslims that follow the quran God will punish the apostasy in the afterlife but he didn't allow humans punishing other humans in this life.

If someone is interested I can quote the verses of the quran and the hadiths about this.
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I would be interested, thank you, Elena (if it doesn't involve too much typing out).

MrP
i'll be interrested too:)....cuz actually as a muslim and according to my knowledge they don't have be punished!!!
Hello MrPedantic and Aleen

It doesn't involve too much typing :-)

Quran speaking about freedom of belief :

Chapter 2 verse 256 There is no compulsion in religion. The right direction is henceforth distinct from error. And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break. Allah is Hearer, Knower

109 : 6 Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion.

17 : 84 Say: Each one doth according to his rule of conduct, and thy Lord is Best Aware of him whose way is right.

18 : 29 And say: The truth is from your Lord, so let him who please believe, and let him who please disbelieve; surely We have prepared for the iniquitous a fire, the curtains of which shall encompass them about; and if they cry for water, they shall be given water like molten brass which will scald their faces; evil the drink and ill the resting-place.

Quran saying Allah will punish :

16 :106 Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty

Hadith saying kill apostates :

Bukhari - Book of Jihad Volume 4, Book 52, Number 260
Narrated Ikrima: Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "
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