Not many have heard this I belive, This is from where the Hindusm born and took lot of changes to called as Hindu.

We can discuss.
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Hi Inglish !
I had done this posting some time back.
actually, 'hindu is not the religion, when aryavart was invaded by yavanas and they could not pronounce 's' of sindhu' they made it 'hindu - river - and people residing in the area were known as 'hindu'. otherwise 'vedic religion' would be the correct word for 'hindu religion' and vedas basically don't preach on how to worrship, but it is teaching us a way of life - how to live our life within the parameters of humanity.
So this is my understanding of religion - no religion teaches us to kill anybody, harm or hurt anybody - this is the basis of every religion - love, peace and friendship - can anyone deny this ?

Let me go little further in this :

there are four vedas - Rigved, which is first. followed by Samved,Yajurved and Atharvved. All these four vedas give you the information about univers.

I would like to quote from a book " Vedanta is systematic and formulated knowledge of life and living. It reveals your real self.Explains your true nature and your relationship with the world. You are essentially a divine no matter what you appear to be - a sinner or a saint. Divinity is the core of your personality. Divinity is your real self. Vedanta helps you to unfold your divinity. To gain the knowledge of your intrinsic Self.With this knowledge you live a life of perfect harmony, peace and bliss."

And this is the basics of all the religion "to know your real self". right !

with love

Sur
You are obsolutly right sur!

How does this born.

This is the only reliegion without a name.
This seems to be deficiate in the religion to some people(particularly to Hindu's).
Why they hadnt thought of giving a name to the religion. There were no religions that time. And might have thought no need to give a name when there is only one.

Founder:

Looks like another deficiate.

Its neither Vyas (Founder of Hindu), nor Lord Krishna (Who gave us Bhagvadgita), they said, Vedas exist before them.
Rishis gave us Vedic Mantras, we can call them as founders of this religion.
But again, themself( rishis who gave the vedic mantras) says, "We havent, composed mantras. When we sat meditating with our minds under control, the mantras were perceived by us in space. Indeed we saw them (hence the term mantra-drastas). ".

All sounds originate in space. From them arose creation. According to science, the cosmos was produced from the vibrations in space. By virtue of their austerities the sages had the gift of seeing the mantras in space, the mantras that liberate men from this creation. The Vedas are apauruseya (not the work of any human author) and are the very breath of the Paramatman in his form as space. The sages saw them and made a gift of them to the world.

If we know this truth, we have reason to be proud of the fact that we do not know who founded our religion. In fact we must feel happy that we have the great good fortune to be heirs to a religion that is eternal, a religion containing the Vedas which are the very breath of the Paramatman
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hi,
appending some text from other site i came accross may give some info :

"Subject: Arya heritage - in a nutshell

The foloowing taken from another egroup devoted to Hinduism: This gives in a nutshell the different theoratcal works which are the bedbock of Hindu traditions
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Dear Mr. Kotwal,

Here's an attempt to answer at least a few of your questions. These are rough and ready answers, but, I think, essentially correct.

> 1. Which are "ShadDarshan" (Six Darshanas) and brief write up on each of them.

The six Darshanas are: Samkhya, Yoga, Nyaya, Vaisheshika, (Purva) Mimamsa, Uttara Mimamsa (Vedanta).

Samkhya and Yoga have the same basic ontology, based on the duality of Purusha and Prakriti. Purusha is pure spirit and Prakriti is the realm of natural phenomena made up of three gunas: sattva (consciousness, equilibrium), rajas (dynamism, activity, passion), and tamas (inertia,immobility). The goal of both is liberation for Purusha, which has misidentified itself with Prakriti. It is this misidentification which constitutes bondage. Purusha realizing its true identity as spirit constitutes liberation. Samkhya is more theoretical in nature, whereas Yoga is a practical method, involving practices such as detachment, restraint of the breath,concentration, etc. for reaching liberation. Samkhya is believed by many to be atheistic-though it is probably better to characterize it as non committal on the issue of the existence of God. Yoga affirms the existence of Ishvara and commends meditation on the attributes of Ishvara as a method for reaching liberation.

Nyaya and Vaisheshika also have the same basic worldview, but differ in their emphases. Nyaya is basically concerned with logic and the valid standards for establishing a philosophical proof. Vaisheshika is a kind of science, interested in enumerating the types of
entities making up the world (atoms, souls, qualities, universals and particulars, etc.).

Purva Mimamsa (often called simply "Mimamsa") is the old orthodox Brahmanical system for interpreting the karma kanda, or action portion of the Vedas: the proper performance of Vedic rituals, how these rituals lead to their results, etc. It is the source of such
doctrines as the eternality of the Vedas and the perfection of Sanskrit.

Uttara Mimamsa, more commonly called Vedanta, is concerned with the jñana kanda of the Vedas--the Upanishads. Its main interest is the realization of Brahman. It is divided into many schools of thought, the three most well-known of which are Advaita, Vishishtadvaita, and Dvaita.

> 2. Names of all Upanishads and brief write up on each of them

There are literally hundreds of Upanishads, but most of these are regarded as authoritative only by particular Hindu sects. One traditional number given for the Upanishads is 108. The Upanishads generally regarded as the "principle" Upanishads are the Brihadaranyaka, Chandogya, Taittiriya,Aitareya, Kaushitaki, Kena, Katha, Isha, Shvetashvatara, Mundaka, Prashna, and Mandukya. The Brihadaranyaka and Chandogya Upanishads are both vast,and probably the oldest, and cover a wide range of topics. The Kena raises the question, "Who is the seer who sees? Who is the hearer who hears?"-- i.e. what is the Self? The Katha Upanishad contains a famous dialogue between Nachiketa and Yama (Death) and is concerned mainly with rebirth and liberation. The Isha Upanishad, with which most traditional collections begin, is an invocation of Ishvara. The Shvetashvatara is theistic and concerned with Shiva, and generally holds the same position in the Shaiva faith that the Bhagavad-Gita
does in the Vaishnava faith. The Mandukya is a reflection on the syllable OM (AUM) and the 4 levels of consciousness (waking, dreaming, dreamless sleep, and samadhi).

> 3. Names of Important Guides and Tikas on Indian Spiritualism
like: Ramayana,
> Mahabharata, ShrimadBhagwat, ShrimadBhagwatGita, AshtavakraGita,
> YogaVashishthya, Shri Datta Anusuya Samvad, Narada Bhaktisutra,
Patanjal Yog
> Darshan, etc.

I'm not sure how to answer this. This is a vast literature.

> 4. Names of all Important YogaMargas like: BhaktiYoga,
AshtangaYoga,
> KarmaYoga, DnyanYoga, RajYoga, KriyaYoga, MantraYoga, TantraYoga
etc.

You've pretty much listed them. RajYoga and AshtangaYoga are one and
the same, and refer to Patañjali's system. There is also Hatha Yoga,
which is an auxiliary to Patañjali's yoga--the system of physical
postures (asanas conducive to meditation (and misidentified by most
Westerners with Yoga as
such).

> 5. Names of all Puranas.

Six Vaishnava Puranas: Vishnu, Naradiya, Bhagavata, Garuda, Padma,
Varaha
Six Shaiva Puranas: Matsya, Kurma, Linga, Shiva, Skanda, Agni
Six Brahma Puranas: Brahma, Brahmanda Brahmavaivarta, Markandeya,
Bhavishya,
Vamana

And many, many others too numerous to list.

> 6. Brief Description of each of the Vedas.

I assume you mean the 4 Samhitas. There are 4 stages of Vedic
literature:
The Samhitas, Brahmanas, Aranyakas, and Upanishads.

The Samhitas are: The Rig Veda, Yajur Veda, Sama Veda, and Atharva
Veda.

The Rig Veda is made up of what, on a superficial reading, appear to
be hymns to nature deities, such as Indra, Agni, Varuna, Surya, and
Soma, but which are seen by many as having deeper, symbolic and
esoteric spiritual meanings.

The Yajur Veda organizes the hymns of the Rig Veda as they would be
recited in the context of particular rituals (like the Agnihotra or
the Ashvamedha).

The Sama Veda sets these hymns to music as they would be chanted in
actual rituals (yajña).

The Atharva Veda, thought by many scholars to be later, is made up of
numerous prayers, philosophical reflections, and what at least
appear to be magical spells for the attainment of specific this-
worldly ends.

I hope this is helpful!

With best wishes,

Jeffery Long "

another post i am posting some site addresses which will be useful tool to check out more on hindu religion and philosophy

with love

sur
As promised posting some site addresses, you can check : .........
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Sanskrit Documents Server site map - Very nice chart of documents, tools, sites, etc.
The Gaudiya Grantha Mandira - Sanskrit text repository.
Sanskrit Documents Server home page - Excelent resource for documents, tools, etc.
Sanskrit Documents Server - Links - Very thorough collection of related sites.
Ananda Ashram (Shri Bramananda Sarasvati) - advaita vedaanta, sanskrit studies, etc.
Samskritapriyah ( Samskrit Education Society ) - Nice tutorials.
Omkarananda Ashram Himalayas - A beautiful site. Excellent tools.
Sanskrit Text and Stotras - Site is dedicated to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
Sacred Texts of Hinduisim - English translation of many classical texts.
Sanskrit Home Page - Stories, Songs, Word games, Phrases etc.
American Sanskrit Institute - Sanskrit courses, tapes, etc.
American Sanskrit Institute - yogasutrabhaaShyam
Arsha Vidya Gurukulam - Institute of Vedanta and Sanskrit
Sanskrit Web Site - Sanskrit and Kashmir Shaivisim
Samskrita Bharati - Speak Sanskrit Movement
Sanskrit Internet Aided Lessons - Wonderful collection of tools and lessons.
Ambaa Devotional Center - For glorification of Divine Mother
sanskrit.bhaarat.com - Cutting edge, community building site!
bhagavadgiitaa - dedicated site with audio
Gita supersite - Multilingual, bhagavadgiitaa, uses dynamic fonts
Sanskrit News - from All India Radio in Real Audio format.
Sanskrit resources - Thorough list of Sanskrit sites.
Dvaita text resources. - in PDF format.
The Sanskrit Library - Advanced and scholarly.
Language-on-the-Web - Lots of Sanskrit links
samskrt.com - links and course work (commercial).
The Gaudia Grantha Mandira - Sanskrit text repository

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with love

Sur
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Sur
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Thank you very much Sur,
I think you keep very much intrest in reading religous books.
I really wish to have the book you recommanded, but Its very costly, I will try for Low Price Edition in India.

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hi,
'reading religious' books, well i will put it this way, it is the unanswered questions keeps me attach to books. and i feel that i don't belong to the world of 'mills and boons' any more (:-|).
well, you can meet me at 'photos of the clan', and to know some thing about me in the 'story of a mother'.

by the way if you have an access to the 'mahrshi university' in india, then you can borrow the book and read.

with love

sur
Interesting discussion is going on here, a lot to learn, little difficult Emotion: tongue tied
Have you read My View of the World by Erwin Shoringer? It contains a chapter: The Vedic fundamental conception. If you have read it, I'd appreciate whatever you want to share about it.
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