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Dictionaries for native speakers don't need to explain everything that a learner's dictionary does. Then why do they list some very basic meanings that even every learner would know? For instance, the word write.

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BulbulTadawrite

Good example. I looked it up and was surprised to find that "writ" is an acceptable past participle even today. You never know what you are going to find.

"writ" is an acceptable past participle even today. Oh really? Emotion: thinking

Do you mean in everyday usage like I have writ a letter to Tom? This doesn't seem acceptable to me

Or are you perhaps thinking of a handful of fixed expressions, eg Politics is war writ large?

Clive

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"writ" is an acceptable past participle even today. Oh really?

Do you mean in everyday usage like I have writ a letter to Tom? This doesn't seem acceptable to me

Or are you perhaps thinking of a handful of fixed expressions, eg Politics is war writ large?

Clive

I would never use it, and I would call it non-standard, but if I encountered someone who did, I would not be able to say they were wrong to do so after having consulted the dictionary. There are more dialects than I have ever heard, that's for sure. Of course, the fossil is lying around, but the dictionary seems to say it goes beyond that.

Let the fossil lie for a while, please! Would you like to comment on the need for the basic meaning of write included in dictionaries.
BulbulTada Let the fossil lie for a while, please! Would you like to comment on the need for the basic meaning of write included in dictionaries.

I love fossils.

Even an ordinary dictionary is meant to be used by non-native speakers. And where do you draw the line? How about "empirical"? "Capitalism"? "Doldrums"? These are as simple to me as "write" is to others. Look at the everyday word "afford". It has both common uses and uncommon. You just go ahead and be as comprehensive as your budget allows, and you chop off the high end, not the bottom, if you have to. Who needs a definition for "abaxile"?

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The school dictionary, as well as one big dictionary I referred to have no pronunciation given for the more common words which learners would need. It is given only where they are likely to cause problems for the native speakers. Learner's dictionaries list more number of uses for preposition words, and they must be not quite uncommon ones. A learner's version tend to have less number of words but lists more uses for each word. But as you said, lines have to be drawn somewhere to limit the size and weight. But online dictionaries can have no such limit. Therefore as you said you have to decide and chop off the high end. Thanks for your answer.

Since I see surprise writ large on Clive's face, could you please tell which dictionary describes it as an acceptable past participle even today? Thanks though, your interest in archaic words is appreciable. Perhaps your interest is mine written large!
anonymousI looked it up and was surprised to find that "writ" is an acceptable past participle even today.
Perhaps it is your interpretation of what has been writ in that dictionary. Please copy that comment here so that others may have their interpretations here. Perhaps what they have writ there is it is still valid in the phrase writ large.
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