Do it by May 5. --> including May 5

Do it before May 5. --> not including May 5 generally

Do it after May 5. --> could be either including or not including May 5

Do it just after May 5. --> including May 5 generally

Is my interpretation correct?

Thanks.
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Do it by May 5. --> including May 5 I agree.

Do it before May 5. --> not including May 5 generally I agree.

Do it after May 5. --> could be either including or not including May 5 I disagree. May 6 is the first day after May 5.

Do it just after May 5. --> including May 5 generally I would say Do it soon after May 5. That would mean in the next few days after May 5. If you do something on May 5, it isn't done after May 5.

I wonder what other members think about this.

CB
Hi guys,

Here's what I think.

Do it by May 5. --> including May 5 I agree. Maybe. Unclear. If it's important, ask for clarification.

Do it before May 5. --> not including May 5 generally I agree. Yes

Do it after May 5. --> could be either including or not including May 5 I disagree. May 6 is the first day after May 5. Yes

Do it just after May 5. --> including May 5 generally I would say Do it soon after May 5. That would mean in the next few days after May 5. If you do something on May 5, it isn't done after May 5. Yes

I wonder what other members think about this.

Clive
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Thanks for your opinion, Clive.

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Thanks, CB and Clive. I understand.
CliveDo it by May 5. --> including May 5 I agree. Maybe. Unclear. If it's important, ask for clarification.
I wondered about this and looked "by" up in Random House Dictionary:

6. not later than; at or before: I usually finish work by five o'clock.

This would support my opinion, wouldn't it?

CB
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Hi,

No, I don't agree.

In your example, 'by 5 o'clock' is a point in time

But 'by Friday' is not a clear point in time.

eg Does it mean

by the start of Friday?

by the end of Friday?

Clive
So "not later than Friday" does not include Friday?

CB
Hi,

That's clear. But that's not what we are discussing, which is 'by Friday'.

What I said was

Do it by May 5. --> including May 5 I agree. Maybe. Unclear. If it's important, ask for clarification.

I'm not sure what else to say about this, except to note that I've asked for such clarification many times.

If I couldn't get clarification, and if it were important to me not to be late, I'd do it no later than Thursday. Emotion: wink

Clive
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