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Hi,

Bill and I have a dog . What's the usual way to say this:

That's Bill and my dog. / That's Bill's and my dog. / ...

Using pronouns:

That's you and my dog. / That's your and my dog. / That's yours and my dog. / ...
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Hiya Kooyeen
(long time no see, buddy, btw)
I think I'd say :
"that's Bill's dog and mine"
and using pronouns
"that's yours and mine" or "that's your dog and mine"
However, in case I need to remind you : I'm not a native !
It may be safer for you to hear from an informed Grammar God.
Ciao,
Waïti.
That's our dog avoids multiple pronouns
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Hey Waïti (sorry I can't use emoticons, I guess my browser has some problems)

You are right, but the problem is another. Maybe I should have used different examples, like these:

Come to Bill's and my party

Come to her and my party / Come to hers and my party

In other words, I'd like to know how native speakers (Americans) say sentences like "Come to Mike and Jenny's party" using pronouns instead of one or both names.

Thank you
Kooyeen... What's the usual way to say this: ... That's you and my dog. / That's your and my dog. / That's yours and my dog. / ...
Well, actually, there is a clever alternative which is not only quite usual but also quite painless: "That's our dog." Emotion: surprise Emotion: smile If you felt further clarification was really necessary, you could just add 'yours and mine' as an afterthought.

The only additional comment I'd make about using 'your and my dog' is that it wouldn't be used much.

Regarding Bill: Saying 'Bill's and my dog' is the best of the options given.
Yes, you would normally say:
Mary and John's dog
(as the dog belongs to both)
but here you need to move the possessive ('s) to the first owner, because the pronoun doesn't take an 's, and
Mary and my dog
means differently (she is with my dog, which doesn't belong to her).

Thus, a compromiseEmotion: smile
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Thank you very much.

Yankee, you said that "your and my dog" is not used much. So, is "yours and my dog" a better alternative? Or, for example "Hers and my birthday party" instead of "Her and my birthday party"?

Thanks
Kooyeen,

If you want to know how that idea is expressed in real spoken American English, here's how:

They are almost always reworded to avoid a possessive adjective (my, your, etc.) joined to another noun by and. Because of this, the 'problem' you pose is almost entirely theoretical.

Bill and my dog becomes the dog that belongs to Bill and me, for example, or the dog that Bill and I have/own.

Normally the conversation has already mentioned Bill and I/me in the context, so, as suggested above, our dog becomes the solution.

You may be surprised to hear this, but when a speaker, not having planned ahead, has painted himself into a grammatical corner on this concept, it is not unusual for the choice to be Bill and I's dog. Emotion: smile

CJ
Ok, thank you very much!
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