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It seems to me that just about every language on the planet has one or another form of a dialect that sounds very close to the one we've come to know as our native language. My first language is Spanish, yet I know that the way I speak it, is not the "pure"(so to speak) kind. Could my way of speaking Spanish be considered a "dialect"? I'm sure to some it is. I loose no sleep over it. I'm just glad I'm able to get my points across and communicate.
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It seems to me that just about every language on the planet has one or another form of a dialect ... it is. I loose no sleep over it. I'm just glad I'm able to get my points across and communicate.

I think it would be better to call it a variety of Spanish.

Note that "variety" can mean "a different form, condition, or phase of something", or it can mean "a number of different types of things" ( RHWUD *). So we can say, for example, "Spanish is spoken in a variety of ways; one variety is spoken in Tijuana."
But maybe it would be better to use "variant" for the one and "variety" for the several.
I suggest we say that a variant is a dialect that doesn't need its own dictionary.
* RHWUD is Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary .
It's a language because people who decide these things (the people who speak it) say it's a language. Who understands what is just not

There must be some Scots who don't consider Scots to be a separate language, but a dialect of English. Whether they constitute a minority or a majority of Scots, I have no idea.

As a matter of act, after this came up in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html the other day, I read (but now can't find the source) an article indicating that a survey was taken to find out what percentage of Scots speak Scots, but the results were unusable because many of the respondents who apparently spoke Scots didn't conceive of it as Scots but as bad English.

Harlan Messinger
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There must be some Scots who don't consider Scots to ... minority or a majority of Scots, I have no idea.

Why must there be? There have at various times been people who have insisted that some or other minority or non-recognised language variety was a dialect, a patois or whatever

I wonder whether the few remaining first-language Gaelic speakers think the same way about Scots English.

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} I suggest we say that a variant is a dialect that doesn't } need its own dictionary.
See, that's a much better suggestion than "Angloid" was.

I'm on Mr. Cunningham's side on this one (he'll no-doubt be happy to learn).

R. J. Valentine
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speaking of http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/vli/language/scots/index.htm

In that case, some of the dialects of Northumberland and nearby counties have an equal claim to language status, especially since at one point they must have been speaking Norse.
I wonder whether the few remaining first-language Gaelic speakers think the same way about Scots English.

Are there any people who speak Gaelic better and more often than English?

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I wonder whether the few remaining first-language Gaelic speakers think the same way about Scots English.

Are there any people who speak Gaelic better and more often than English?

People in the Western Isles speak Gaelic as a first language. They certainly speak it more often than they speak English in their day-to-day lives; whether they speak it better than they speak English, I wouldn't be able to judge.
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