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Nona The BritJackson, people can debate any topic. You can't say 'my opinion is X so no one else should even talk about it'.
Hi Nona,

That was my opinion. I just requested to stop discussing topic which makes very little sense. Yes, people can debate anything. What would you say if they start debating if Earth is in the shape of cube or pyramid for years?
But that is an example of fact.

Your statement that they are different is merely your own personal opinion. Other people have different opinions. Don't confuse opinions with facts.

My opinion is that no gods exist at all, but I can't tell people that talking about religions makes no sense as god doesn't exist. Neither my opinion that it doesn't exist, nor their opinion that it does exist is a 'fact'.
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Nona The BritBut that is an example of fact.

Your statement that they are different is merely your own personal opinion. Other people have different opinions. Don't confuse opinions with facts.

My opinion is that no gods exist at all, but I can't tell people that talking about religions makes no sense as god doesn't exist. Neither my opinion that it doesn't exist, nor their opinion that it does exist is a 'fact'.

Understood.Emotion: smile Next time I would be careful.
Jackson6612...Anyone who has a very slight knowledge of Christianity and Islam would know Christians and Muslims worship utterly different Lords. I intend no offence.

Best wishes, Jackson

Jackson, I'm puzzled by this. I find them to be the same God. Perhaps God shows different faces to different people, in the way that makes the most sense to them.

Perhaps God invites some people to know him through the person we call the Son of God, while others are invited to know him through the words recorded by Mohammed. Perhaps others know God only through the beauty of creation and don't think of him as a "him" (or "her") at all. And others sense the energy that connects all living things, and that is how God reaches out to them. But of all of these, I think God shows himself to Jews, Christians, and Muslims in a very similar way. Not as utterly different Lords.


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Jackson, I'm puzzled by this. I find them to be the same God. Perhaps God shows different faces to different people, in the way that makes the most sense to them.

Perhaps God invites some people to know him through the person we call the Son of God, while others are invited to know him through the words recorded by Mohammed. Perhaps others know God only through the beauty of creation and don't think of him as a "him" (or "her") at all. And others sense the energy that connects all living things, and that is how God reaches out to them. But of all of these, I think God shows himself to Jews, Christians, and Muslims in a very similar way. Not as utterly different Lords.

There is only one God. Same for everyone. If someone worships idol, then you cannot say he is worshipping the Son of God. His worshipping has nothing to do with the Lord of the whole universe. If he/she claims that his/her idol is god, then that would make that idol a god. Pharaoh claimed to be god. Moses did not worship him because he was not a true god. In the old times, there have been many cultures who worshipped sun, trees, stones, and winds etc. You cannot say they were worshipping the true Lord. They were committing sin. Jesus did not ask to worship beauty of this world. He said appreciate the beauty, not to worship it.

I still say Muslims and Christians worship different Lords. Yes, Muslims and Jews worship the same God. God owns everything of this universe including ourselves. If someone says there is no God, then that does not make a difference to God. According to Jewish and Islamic teachings God does not sire anyone and in Judaism and Islam it's a sin if someone holds the view otherwise . Then how could you say they worship the same Lord? I do believe they have many things in common, if they ever try to find out about them.

God did not invite anyone through Pharaoh. Yes, God does invite people through different faces. But there is only one God. In the end those faces will go in dark and you will come into direct connection with God. I was born in a family where God's existence was taken for granted. I always had questions about Him. No one ever answered me. They just said ther is a Lord, Lord of everything. When I grew up I thought it was my own quest for eternal truth, not their. After that it was not hard to find Him. I believe if all the roads close before you, then He can show you the hidden path which nobody knows, if you really want Him to show you one. In religious matters I do not accept others' opinions unless I have thoroughly analysed them myself. In the end God will not ask me why I was not more like Moses rather He will say why I was not more like Jackson.

"When I reach the world to come, God will not ask me why I wasn’t more like Moses. He will ask me why I wasn’t more like Zusya." (Early Hasidic leader, Rabbi Zusya)

I intend no offence. As you can see my English is not good, therefore my words do not exactly follow my ideas and intentions as I want them to do.

Best wishes, Jackson
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I still say Muslims and Christians worship different Lords. Yes, Muslims and Jews worship the same God.

But since the Christians and the Jews worship the same God, why do you think that the Christians and Muslims worship different Gods?
Hi GG,

Christians and Jews do not worship the same God.
Okay, well I can see we have a gap in opinion that cannot be bridged. I completely disagree with you, but that's okay. I don't think our disagreement affects how we each feel about God.
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I too think it's odd to suggest that Muslims and Jews worship the same god, but that Christians do not. The funny thing is that I have heard and read both Christians and Muslims arguing that they worship a different god than the other, but I've never heard either argue that Jews worship a different god than them. Whatever your beliefs, the fact is that all three religions claim to worship the so-called "God of Abraham". Considering that, it seems to me that a person can reach one of three conclusions: either they do worship the same god, but characterize him differently, or one of the religions worships the correct god, while the other a false god, or they're all wrong.
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