# Conditional Or Not?

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Hi,
Please tell me if my assumptions are correct.
1, They began asking us several months ago if we would stay. -- looks to be a type 1 conditional like "They began asking us several months ago if we could stay."
2. I said I would stay if I could do two shows a night.-- looks to be a type 2 conditional (unreal)
3. If there would be a church in this neighborhood, it would be ideal. -- looks to be a type 2 conditional (unreal)
4. If there were a Burnham wood in XXX, they probably would have shipped it. -- looks to be a type 2 conditional (unreal)
But, this doesn't look to be any type of condtional. Or could it be a type 1 conditional?
Would you pass me the paper if you have an extra one?
So, is it the fact that if you have an if-clause and a clause that comes after it, it is a conditional sentence, whether in question form or sentence(?) form?
1, They began asking us several months ago if we would stay. Not a conditional at all. if/whether we would stay is an indirect question.
2. I said I would stay if I could do two shows a night.-- looks to be a type 2 conditional (unreal) Yes. Type 2.
3. If there would be a church in this neighborhood, it would be ideal. -- looks to be a type 2 conditional (unreal) If there were a church ... Type 2.
4. If there were a Burnham wood in ***, they probably would have shipped it. -- looks to be a type 2 conditional (unreal) Mixed conditional. 2 and 3.
CJ
Hello Anonymous,
Avoid using the word "would" in the "if" clause of your conditional sentences. Use the present (type 1), simple past (type 2) or past perfect (type 3).
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CalifJimthey probably would have shipped it.

Is there an explanation why probably fails to fit in the mid-position?
Is that because they would probably have shipped it would split the continuity of the usually contracted form would've shipped?

YETYlandIs there an explanation why probably fails to fit in the mid-position?

'would probably have shipped it' is also good.

YETYlandIs that because they would probably have shipped it would split the continuity of the usually contracted form would've shipped?

That's possible, though I don't think these things are conscious decisions in spontaneous speech and writing.

CJ

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CJ,
Thank you, as usual.

CalifJim'would probably have shipped it' is also good.

Yes. Again, the question was why the adverb is placed out of the mid-position. I failed to avoid ambiguity in my question again. Sorry.

CalifJim I don't think these things are conscious decisions in spontaneous speech

I'd say it's not a conscious decision at all, but a matter of fluency and convenience of speech.

So, the question should've been put this way:

Is it probable that probably can be placed out of the mid-position because it feels uncomfortable to break the fluency of a contracted form?

Cheers,
YETY

CalifJim2. I said I would stay if I could do two shows a night.-- looks to be a type 2 conditional (unreal) Yes. Type 2.

You were so sure it is Cond. II and not Past forms of will and can due to the Sequence of Tenses in the Reported Speech after I said and if because this is the way it is more likely to be felt by a native speaker within so limited a context or was it just because the asker put forward their suggestion that led you to think so?
Sorry for trying to peep in your mind, CJ )

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YETYlandit is Cond. II and not Past forms of will and can due to the Sequence of Tenses in the Reported Speech

For all practical purposes the two are indistinguishable.

YETYlandjust because the asker put forward their suggestion that led you to think so?

This one. I try to stick to the mindset of the OP rather than go off on a tangent that might only confuse.

CJ