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Hi,

Which do think is correct?

He is a patient of Dr. Shafritz.

He is a patient of Dr. Shafritz's.
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Either one. Especially with a name that ends in the S sound already, the Shafritz's may sound awkward.

What do you think about "She is a patient of Dr. Smith/Smith's"

I think I'm learning toward the non-apostrophe with patient. However, with "friend" I'd use the 's version.
Hi,

Yes, you are right. It does sound odd, but that is how the doctor dictated. I was wondering if he was wrong. I think I will change it to the first version as you suggested. Thanks.
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The double genetive [of + 's] is very popular, and some consider it to be fine. I find it irritating and advise my students to avoid it. [Similar: "a friend of mine" ~ "one of my friends" - you can guess which one I use.]
Thank you Philip. I would definitely not use the phrase "a friend of mine."
tipsee1Which do think is correct?

He is a patient of Dr. Shafritz.

He is a patient of Dr. Shafritz's.
Only the second one sounds right to me.

CJ
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Now you have really confused me!!! You mean there is no contemporary school of linguistics which states that "this sentence is definitely wrong, you cannot use it this way" or "this is how the Brits use it, in America we use it differently" or "well you can use it either way but this is preferable" etc.
No, there is no hard and fast rule.

The double genitive (a friend of Peter's, a student of Dr. Milller's, a patient of Dr. Phillips's) is okay, as is the "one of" construction: One of Peter's friends, one of Dr. Miller's students, one of Dr. Phillips's patients).

As you can see, Philip doesn't care for it. Jim says only the 's version works for him.

I have heard people attempt to explain it by saying whether the person would "claim" the subject. An enemy of my father vs. An enemy of my father's because my father wouldn't claim the person as his enemy. I'm not sure that makes any sense to me.

Add to the mix the fact that you can also choose to use the ' or the 's with a name ending with an S sound. I would say Phillips's or Davis's or James's but others would say Phillips' or Davis' or James'. So your hope of a one universal answer diminishes.

By the way, I would certainly say "A friend of mine."

There are a few threads on this "double genitive" in English Forums - as well as in other ESL forums, such as this one: http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=1096023
Grammar Geekexplain it by saying whether the person would "claim" the subject
Yes. That "kinda, sorta" works for me. But you wouldn't use the double genitive with an inanimate object, I don't think, but I could be wrong. A symphony of Mozart. A novel of Hardy. Difficult topic.

CJ
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