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I think that "die" is in current use in AmE, ... in other parts of the world do I don't know.

Aren't those people in the other parts of the world using the "die" version as in "the die is cast"?

They do, but I think that qualifies as an archaism.

I didn't realise until this thread that the survival of "die" for "one dice" appears to fall into the pondian category of words like "gotten".

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On 26 Oct 2003, Tony Cooper wrote

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Aren't those people in the other parts of the world using the "die" version as in "the die is cast"?

They do, but I think that qualifies as an archaism. I didn't realise until this thread that the survival of "die" for "one dice" appears to fall into the pondian category of words like "gotten".

Yes. I'd agree with Don. Most English people probably wouldn't know that there was a singular 'die'. I don't think that's overstating it.

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So this means that both are equally acceptable?

'die' is regarded by some educated people as technically correct, but it's not normally used. You would get some strange looks if you used it in ordinary circles.

Huh? I thought they were square.

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On 26 Oct 2003, Tony Cooper wrote

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Aren't those people in the other parts of the world using the "die" version as in "the die is cast"?

They do, but I think that qualifies as an archaism. I didn't realise until this thread that the survival of "die" for "one dice" appears to fall into the pondian category of words like "gotten".

I don't think so. "Gotten" is used by all AmE speakers with the possible exception of Eric/Erik/Wordy/Housekeeper/Jawbreaker/The Painful Spoke Walker. "Die" as singular of "dice", however, is probably only actively used by relatively educated AmE speakers (NTTARWT). We usually see a reverse of this sort of situation, where a bunch of BrE AUE speakers assume that a particular usage is an Americanism because sufficiently educated BrE speakers don't use it.
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You can do it if you put the fingers of ... other, playing the knife like a teeter-totter all the way.

The best method to dice food in this manner is to use a mezzaluna.

I was going to suggest an ulu...for large vegetables a bat'leth would also work..r
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Ross Howard filted:
'die' is regarded by some educated people as technically correct, ... some strange looks if you used it in ordinary circles.

Huh? I thought they were square.

Not necessarily:
http://www.deigames.com/round.html
I have a pair of these..r
Tony Cooper filted:
Aren't those people in the other parts of the world using the "die" version as in "the die is cast"?

For the longest time, I thought this expression referred to a metal die for forming screw-threads, and that "cast" referred to creating the tool out of molten metal...it very nearly makes sense (once the tool has been made and the metal cools, it's very difficult to unmake), which may be why it took me so long to shake the erroneous image..r
So this means that both are equally acceptable?

'die' is regarded by some educated people as technically correct, but it's not normally used. You would get some strange looks if you used it in ordinary circles.

The above is not true in the United States. "Dice" as singular may be used by some, but - at least in my experience - it's unusual. You would get some strange looks, etc.
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For the longest time, I thought this expression referred to a metal die for forming screw-threads, and that "cast" referred ... cools, it's very difficult to unmake), which may be why it took me so long to shake the erroneous image..r

Me too! It makes good sense - just a shame that it's false. I thought this for over twenty years. Longer, maybe. I reckon I heard something about die-cast models/toys when I was a boy, and made the incorrect assumption.

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