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I speak English for a long time now but today I've got a chat with a guy, who claims that in English letter 'o' under the strees will be pronaunced close to 'ah'. And I really can't remember any rule that says this, now, it's really long time since I've finished school and I don't remember many rules anyway Emotion: smile. As examples he talked about pronunciation of words as 'love' , 'come'.

So my question is actually, what are the rules (if they exist) for pronouncing 'o' in such words as 'love', 'come', 'some' as 'ah' and not 'o' (all those different kinds of 'o' lol).

and the last : how do you pronounce the name Donnie?

thanks to everyone.
I'm afraid to say that I don't think that there is always a rule, Guest. You'll master the different pronounciations of "o" after spending some time on pronounciation and listening. However, you can get some hint from your dictionary which gives the IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet) phonetic symbols to guide you how to pronounce the word (the British dictionaries, such as Oxford, Longman, ... However, you can use an American dictionary, they also provide you with some symbols which are not international and I don't know the pronounciation of them, but if you can, it's ok). Then you'll see different symbols for "come/love/mother/above" which are pronounced as "but", "horse/force" before "r", ... The difference between these two sound is that in the latter case you give a rounded shape to your lips, whereas an unrounded position is taken when pronouncing the words of the first category. In "fond/fog/doll/rock", though stressed, the pronounciation is different (and also we have the American version and the British one). Words like "stone/focus/nose" again fall into another category with different British and American variations (and this sound is a diphtong, a combination of two vowel sounds). The rest are easier to recognise, since there is another letter ptresent to give you a hint, like "book/shoot/shoe", "boy/boil", "mouth/down,doubt/", however this doesn't always work: door, double, grow.

Look at your dictionary and check the pronounciation of the words and pay attention to them, meanwhile, I'll look to find some new information and rules, if there are any.

Good luck,
There are many varieties of O, each with its own sound.

Long O: so, toe, nose, float, tone, oak, low, know, though, comb, cold, bolt, folk, roll, brooch
Double-long O (= Long U): move, prove, tomb
Short O: got, shot, pod, dock, off, rob
Double-short O (= Short U): love, shove, come, some, done, does, month, tongue, of, from, front
Half-long O: woman, wolf

(American English)
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The on-line Cambridge Learners' Dictionary will show you the phoenetics of any word you look up, if you select "show phonetics".


There is also a section on the phoenetic alphabet.

Love is more of an uh sound and donnie would be d-ah-knee
How about "Stop"!?

"Stop" Pronounced as: Stah-p
"Love" Pronounced as: Luh-v
"Come" Pronounced as: Cuh-m
"Some" Pronounced as: Sum

...and the name "Donnie" would be pronounced as: Dah-Knee

Hope that helps =)
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Anonymousbut today I've got a chat with a guy, who claims that in English letter 'o' under the strees will be pronaunced close to 'ah'.
When you put it in a context, that guy is right. For instance, compile vs compilation: in the latter, "com" is pronounced like "calm", thanks to the stress. Stress also attracts coda consonants.

There is a variation: "o" also gets a tenser variant. For instance, lotion, motion, etc. Here, you don't hear "ah". However, you hear "ah" in adoption, thanks to /p/ being the part of the syllable "dop".

The story: consonant + o + consonant OR o + consonant = ah sound

o + consonant + vowel digraph = oh sound
o + consonant + consonant + vowel digraph = ah sound
Thanks!! you just helped my brother finish his homework Emotion: roflhahahahahahahahaha
  • come, some, love – These o sounds are closer to the short ŭ sound. “For several reasons, the use of the letter 'o' was never properly standardized in English. It first lost its reliable link to just one sound as in 'got and hot', when early scribes started to use it for the short u-sound whenever this occurred next to the letters 'm', 'n', or 'v' leaving us with spellings likes 'come' ,'none' and 'love'…The scribes made the 'o for u’ substitution because they thought that too many downward strokes next to each other, as in 'sume, nune, luve' made reading difficult.”
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