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I also used to drink red ones (beer with tomato juice). That was at a different time and in a different place.

Oy! What a terrible thing to do to tomato juice! It's my second favorite juice. Grapefruit juice is my #1. and Betelgeuse my #3.

Yeah, grapefruit juice *is* number one!
As for the tomato juice, I love it, and the thing something is being done to is the beer, not the juice.
After a while, beer lost some of the appeal for me, so I doctored it a bit first with some salt, and then I switched to adding tomato juice. The red ones were quite popular in the area I was living then (Alderwood Manor, Washington, 1967). The local tavern always had a big pitcher of tomato juice.

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Oy! What a terrible thing to do to tomato juice! It's my second favorite juice. Grapefruit juice is my #1. and Betelgeuse my #3.

Yeah, grapefruit juice *is* number one! As for the tomato juice, I love it, and the thing something is being done to is the beer, not the juice.

What most Americans call "beer" doesn't need any more doctoring than tossing the unopened cans into a dumpster wouldn't cure. Real beer is a gas if one drinks only a single bottle or glass about once a month or so, and with Mexican or Italian food. Wine is better with Italian food, of course, but far too expensive in bars.
After a while, beer lost some of the appeal for me, so I doctored it a bit first with ... area I was living then (Alderwood Manor, Washington, 1967). The local tavern always had a big pitcher of tomato juice.

I probably would have been a lot more sober had I lived in that part of Washington. But the weather would have driven me to suicide, I'm sure.
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No. When I was young, they were called "flip-flops". I think a "thong" was for keeping your woggle on.

In my day, woggles kept themselves on.

They don't make 'em like they used to.
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After a while, beer lost some of the appeal for ... local tavern always had a big pitcher of tomato juice.

I probably would have been a lot more sober had I lived in that part of Washington. But the weather would have driven me to suicide, I'm sure.

I actually loved that part of Washington near Seattle, but "out in the country" then. I drove by there about a year ago, and they have built about four houses in what used to be out front yard, and about a good dozen more in what was our back yard, horse corral, and a bit of woods.
Yes, the weather was not what one might love every day, but the sunny days were magnificent and made it all worthwhile. Would you believe that I actually cried when I realized that in order to remain gainfully employed I had to return to San Jose area that smoggy, congested, and culturally dead locale at the time (in 1970). We had a nice house up on top of Finn Hill, near the northeast corner of Lake Washington, and I wanted to spend the rest of my life in the Pacific Northwest, you see.

It was also the time when my table tennis abilities were peaking, and there was plenty of good competition in the Seattle and Vancouver, BC, area. For casual entertainment in the area there was a good jazz club (Checkmate) and for good dancing to the jazz stylings of an excellent trio there was The Windjammer at the Shilshole Marina.

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That one's new to me thanks. Closely related to "pilgrim," I see, the idea of wandering. From Latin per through + agr-, ager land.

When a peregrine arrives, does he become a parvenu?
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Gosh, I wasn't in the know, it appears. I have ... They go well with beer. Others were eating them too.

I suppose that if you had had enough beer, it didn't matter what they really tasted like. I was told that they were all old, so I never bothered. Besides, they never offered mayonnaise to go with the eggs, so I wasn't really interested.

Old and sans mayonnaise didn't matter if they were the ones kept pickled in big jars, as often found in America in earlier times.
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Oy! What a terrible thing to do to tomato juice! It's my second favorite juice. Grapefruit juice is my #1. and Betelgeuse my #3.

Yeah, grapefruit juice *is* number one! As for the tomato juice, I love it, and the thing something is being ... area I was living then (Alderwood Manor, Washington, 1967). The local tavern always had a big pitcher of tomato juice.

When in the US my father also uses salt, on the rare occasions when he drinks a beer rather than a vodka. I used to put Angostura bitters in my beer. The only draft available in the smaller bars of Bangor was Bud or Busch, both nearly undrinkable if not doctored and, even then, evoking the image of water a skunk had washed in. It wasn't quite so awful with a few drops of bitters added. I went to an "Irish bar" in a hotel there after I became older and wiser.

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Were they the big old vacuum tube (BrE: valve) kind?

I'm afraid that one went right over my head. Care to explain? Even Google didn't help.

Flip-flop is the informal name for one of the possible circuits used to store a binary bit. It has two stable states and can be "flipped" from one to the other. The formal name is bistable multivibrator, as I recall. They can be easily constructed using two vacuum tubes or two transistors. Your dictionary should have the word.
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I'm afraid that one went right over my head. Care to explain? Even Google didn't help.

I think Charles is referring to the logical flip-flop, a device which can be switched between two states. They were used way back in the 1960s as an introduction to digital computer technology.

They were used way back in 2002 as well. I'm pretty sure you have a few in your house even now. What's static memory?
Something like this: http://smithsonianchips.si.edu/texas/pg00083.htm I remember as a child being presented with a "programmed learning" manual on the subject.

As a child I built them, using the legal definition of "child".
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