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I was thinking of a pilgrim making a grand tour ... Spain, collecting a bag of relics to wow the homefolks.

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Thou woldest make me kisse thyn olde breech,
And swere it were a relyk of a seint,
Though it were with thy fundement depeint!

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John Wayne was fond of using 'pilgrim', but I don't what he meant by it.
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On 03 Nov 2003, Sara Moffat Lorimer wrote snip I've ... expression to disappear from the subconscious vocabulary of other expatriates.

I can time it exactly. It occurred on my one trip back to Europe in 1983. I was on a ... referring to the country of my birth, still slips into my speech occasionally, but rarely. (Oh, the answer: nine years).

After 30 years in France, my first wife, referring to 'home' when she's there in France, means the place in Derbyshire where she grew up, and where her mother lives. If she refers to 'home' while here in England, she means her house in France.

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Robin Bignall
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After 30 years in France, my first wife, referring to 'home' when she's there in France, means the place in Derbyshire where she grew up, and where her mother lives. If she refers to 'home' while here in England, she means her house in France.[/nq]I've lived some 35 years in France, the vast majority of them absolutely delightful, but 'home' for me will always be the part of Scotland where I was born and grew up (and lived only about half as many years as I have already lived here). I have never "applied" for French nationality, because I'm not "French" and never will be; so, every so often, I have to fill up the requisite forms for a resident's permit.

I love my life here, I love the French with-and-in-spite-of all of their quirks, but I'm not and never shall be one of them. In my plans for early retirement, I intend to go 'home' possibly a Paradise Lost, mais qu'est-ce que j'en ai à faire because I hanker after the sounds and smells and bumps and bruises and touches and tastes of the town where I was born.
David
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She left her Doc Martens at home, and seems to wear flip-flops all the time these days (snip) Fran

Remember when flip-flops were called thongs.
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She left her Doc Martens at home, and seems to wear flip-flops all the time these days (snip)

Remember when flip-flops were called thongs.

No, but I remember when they were called zoris. Or would it have been "zories"? Either is apparently wrong, as "zori" is both singular and plural, according to my dictionary.

Ray Heindl
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(Snip)> Remember when flip-flops were called thongs.

No, but I remember when they were called zoris. Or would it have been "zories"? Either is apparently wrong, as "zori" is both singular and plural, according to my dictionary. Ray Heindl (remove the Xs to reply)

Whose zori now?
Never heard the word. Japanese? (The word, I mean.) Cheers, Sage
That one's new to me thanks. Closely related to "pilgrim," I see, the idea of wandering. From Latin per through + agr-, ager land.

Speaking of pilgrims (and to generate some Thanksgiving table-talk), doesn't pilgrim imply some sort or wandering? So the Mayflower Pilgrims were misnamed because all they did was sail from point A to point B?

No, they didn't. They sailed from point A to point B to point C and then to point D at least. I think B was Southampton, which has a Pilgrim memorial near the Royal Pier. Then they went to Plymouth, Devon ... and then to the other place.)
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Speaking of pilgrims (and to generate some Thanksgiving table-talk), doesn't ... they did was sail from point A to point B?

No, they didn't. They sailed from point A to point B to point C and then to point D ... a Pilgrim memorial near the Royal Pier. Then they went to Plymouth, Devon ... and then to the other place.)

They went to the House of Lords? Damn! Now that explains a whole heap of stuff.

John Dean
Oxford
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