# re: Einstein's Riddle - Who Has The Fish?page 17

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I would like to know whether assumption is the key to beginning to solve a puzzle!!

Looking at the puzzle, I feel that without assumption, we cant continue to solve the puzzle.

Seen a lotta answers.. but how? Thats the question!

Can anyone tell how they arrived at the answer they arrived at!!!

Cheers!
Meeen, you are all wrong. The whole world is wrong. This riddle wasn't a joke at all. It is impossible to tell which man owns the fish. Look at the sentences. They say ONLY about 4 animals. There is nothing about fishes! The German can own an elephant as well. There's nothing like 'the owner of fish lives in a house in the left of white one'. This is the true, real, only possible answer: there is no answer, cause whe don't know the fifth animal owned. Only 2% of people on the world can notice this. Sorry, no bonus.

Wishes

PS. I'm 15
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Everyone who is posting their "IQ"...ever think that it's a fake number? Especially those who took an online test? I got a 105, and when I took a second test I got 140.

Just pointing that out.
im confused? Anonymous please quote the person on there page that has posted there IQ. The only numbers I see on this page is dates/times/ages. Not sure what thread you are reading =]
As I see it, there's technically two "answers" to this puzzle...

After playing with Post-It Notes all over my office wall, the answer comes clear -- The German likes fish. Using pure logic though, there is actually no provable answer to this puzzle as no clue dictates that anyone actually owns a fish, just because you're asking who owns "the fish" and the German is the only person left absent of a pet does not in fact mean that he owns a fish, he could have a gorilla for all we know... So "if" it can be assumed that there is in fact a pet fish involved, then the German has it, which is a good thing, cuz the Brit would have battered and fried it with chips.

Of one thing I'm certain, my fridge light does go off when the door's closed, I climbed in and checked.

Remember, less than 2% of the population may be able to figure it out, but about 80% of the population know how to Google.

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If you solve it literally, then sure, it can be the Norwegian...if the white and green house don't neighbour then it can be more than just the German.

Besides, it's a trick question anyway...so tricky that only 2% get it...
Occam's Razor, The simplest answer that works is the correct one. As long as the green house is to the left, then it's correct.
You have to take on some assumptions becasue most riddles, unlike math problems, dont perfectly set the rules.If you are going to read into the rules with extreme literal interpretation, then you end up with anyone can have a fish or anyone can have 10 birds, becasue the problem says "no owner has the same pet". The same pet can imply the same exact pet, meaning one particular dog for example, becasue in reality my dog is not the same pet as your dog. The specifications do not differntiate between species and quantities of pets so if you dont make some assumptions then you lose the premise of a riddle altogether, that it will have one asnwer everyone can agree on. Einstein, or whoever made up the riddle asks. "Who has the fish?". This forces 2 assumptions 1. There is a fish and 2. Someone has it.
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The size of the population then and now is irrelevant. "Two percent" is just as profound of a statement about the ability of the masses, regardess of the size of the sample being considered. However, this riddle (which was apparently not written in the 1950s near Einstein's death, but closer to 1900) may have been unslovable by 98% of the population back in a time where illeteracy was prevelant, and critical thinking skills were more rare.

BTW, I solved this in 3-4 minutes. Forget the diagrams and calculations. The description of the German says that he smokes Prince brand. The words "German", and "Prince" are simply not found in any other clues, meaning the information about the German does not preclude him from having any other characteristic. Therefore (and assuming there IS a fish), he must own the fish, as the other four pets are clued-in to references about the characteristics of the other people, who can't be the German, as his defined characteristics aren't mentioned elsewhere else.