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Hi all,

I am a Japanese and not a native speaker of English.
I have a question about usage of these words.
After looking them into in some dictionaries, I have found that I can use both 'except' and 'except for' as prepositions.
And then, I picked up some examples.

1.'I wouldn't have accepted anything except a job in Europe ...'
2.'I don't take any drugs whatever, aspirin for colds ...'
3.'Children who take exams early will be allowed to drop a subject except in the case of maths, English and science.'
4.'Our group except me was admitted to the bar.'
5.'He hadn't eaten a thing except for one forkful of salad ...'
6.'Everyone was late, except for Richard.'

Though I collected some examples, I don't understand in what kind of cases I should use 'except', not 'except for'.
To tell the truth, I asked a native English speaker this question, but he just said, "It depends on the sense as a native".

Please tell me the difference of the usage.
Thanks,

Yoko
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Hi Yoko,

The differences between British English (used in English speaking countries apart from America) and American English are quite minor, but do sometimes cause a little confusion even among native English speakers.

I am pleased (that) we were able to help you.

Please feel free to ask questions and also to enjoy practising your English.

P.S. I wish my Japanese was as good as your English!! Emotion: smile Yokudekimashita (well done)!
Hi, Yoko,

Nice to meet you, too.
Thank you for letting me know about your teacher.

Re. differences among the varieties of English, the main difference would be in vocabulary, although there are some grammatical differences. If you are interested, you might find the following website helpful:


It explains some of the most conspicuous differences between American and British English. Also, it contains links to some very useful sites.

Hope this helps.

CuriousT
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Hello CuriousT,

Thank you for telling me the site.
It must help me understand the differences among the varieties of English.

The site looks and sounds intersting to me.
I will read it slowly and carefully tonight.

Thanks!
Yoko
Sure.

You can come back here and discuss some of the topics covered there. It will be interesting because people from different English-speaking countries visit this site. You may make an interesting discovery. Emotion: smile

Tallk to you later.

CuriousT
Hello everyone,

I've found a book that explains 'except' and 'except for', this book is "Basic English Usage" by Michael Swan, Oxford University Press.

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except and except for

1. We can use except or except for after all, any, anything/body/one/where, everything/body/one/where, nothing/body/one/where, and whole - that is to say, words which suggest the idea of total.
In other cases we usually except for, but not except.

Compare:
He ate everything on his plate except (for) the beans.
He ate the whole meal except (for) the beans.
He ate the meal except for the beans.
(NOT......except the beans.)

I've cleaned all the rooms except (for) the bathroom.
I've cleaned the whole house except (for) the bathroom.
I've cleaned the house except for the bathroom.
(NOT......except the bathroom.)

2. We use except, not except for, before prepositions and conjunctions.

It's the same everywhere except in Scotland.
She's beautiful except when she smiles.
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When I showed this explanation to my native teacher, he told me that it was a very little thing for using English and we didn't need to be sensitive about it....
He also said, 'No one cares about it. This explanation is for beginners.'

So I would like to ask everybody,
doesn't this rule work anymore in English-speaking nations?

Thanks,
Yoko
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