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You ask "How can this be anyone's standard practice?" That's like asking, "How can it be anyone's standard practice to ... single and double ending quotation marks: "He wondered how it could be anyone's standard practice to write 'favourite' for 'favorite.'")

That may be true if you were quoting a statement, a sentance, but you're not, you're quoting a name which has no included punctuation. It's not the same as an alternate spelling, it's grammatically incorrect.
Some names do have puncutation, like "Fame!, the movie. Are you saying that "Fame!," the movie is an acceptible alternative? I say it's hogwash.

dg (domain=ccwebster)
I Oy!ed PBS ("Public Broadcasting System," a government-owned network) ... instead of "Last night I watched "Mask", a great film."

I keep forgetting if you're the Don in the Northwest or the Don in the Midwest, but I know you're ... England you would write: My favorite poem is Robert Frost's "Design". (That page has more about other marks and combinations.)

Thanks, Donna. I couldn't reach the page just now but I don't care if someone was holding a gun to my head, I would never put that particular comma inside those particular quotes. It just doesn't make sense, even taking into account that languages don't make any sense! In your example, there is no following clause to be separated by the punctuation as in the OP. This makes it not so noticable.
I'm the Northwest Don, BTW.

dg (domain=ccwebster)
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Some American punctuation guides recognize the absurdity of punctuating the way we are supposed to, but they still recommend that ... to say what you mean, use the British style. If you don't care what you say, use the American style.

Many computer programmers also use the British style for similar reasons as the textual critics. The New Hacker's Dictionary, 3rd ed. gives this example:
Then delete a line from the file by typing "dd".
vs.
Then delete a line from the file by typing "dd."
Where "dd." and "dd" have different meanings to the program to which they are commands.
-Peter

Peter Seibel (Email Removed)

Lisp is the red pill. John Fraser, comp.lang.lisp
...
} In the case of Amtrak, the organizational statute actually says "Amtrak is } not an agency" (ask Liebs whether such a legislative statement has any } legal significance).
He'll no-doubt confirm that the answer is buried deep in bailment law.

R. J. Valentine
But be sure to check his sig comment.
You ask "How can this be anyone's standard practice?" That's ... could be anyone's standard practice to write 'favourite' for 'favorite.'")

That may be true if you were quoting a statement, a sentance, but you're not, you're quoting a name which ... "Fame!, the movie. Are you saying that "Fame!," the movie is an acceptible alternative? I say it's hogwash.

Are you questioning whether I have correctly represented the standard American practice or whether the standard American practice deserves to be the standard American practice? If the first, then you should be able to verify easily enough that I am correct. If the second, then that's a subject which has already been much discussed in these newsgroups and has by now become a pretty boring one. I expect to follow the American practice until a majority of educated American writers (at the very least) change to something else, if they ever do. (When writing in French or Esperanto, I follow a practice which is similar to that of the British When in Rome..)

Raymond S. Wise
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
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I keep forgetting if you're the Don in the Northwest ... "Design". (That page has more about other marks and combinations.)

Thanks, Donna. I couldn't reach the page just now but I don't care if someone was holding a gun to ... is no following clause to be separated by the punctuation as in the OP. This makes it not so noticable.

It's fine by me if you stick to your guns, I'm not trying to convert you. I was a bit surprised that you were completely unaware of the traditional US policy, though. The AUE FAQ gives the usual reason, relating to printing type.
I'm the Northwest Don, BTW.

Thanks. I like being able to place people mentally around the globe and two different Don G's confuse me. I will try picturing "groves" of trees in the Pacific Northwest. But then again, Missouri (which I think is where the other Don G lives) is also tree-covered... Could I interest you in taking on another identifying name tag, a sort of "Calvin the Bold" epithet?

Best - Donna Richoux
I'm the Northwest Don, BTW.


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Robin Bignall
Hertfordshire
England
It's like saying, "Last night I watched "Mask," a great film" instead of "Last night I watched "Mask", a great film."

But 'Mask' wasn't a great film.
I thought it was rubbish; but then I only watched the first half.

Martyn
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Martyn filted:
It's like saying, "Last night I watched "Mask," a great film" instead of "Last night I watched "Mask", a great film."

But 'Mask' wasn't a great film. I thought it was rubbish; but then I only watched the first half.

Eric Stoltz or Jim Carrey?...r
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