In another newsgroup a discussion arose about the usage 'grammar errors' as opposed to 'grammatical errors'.
Googling the concurrence of the phrases (1750 web hits) shows a great many grammarians using both, often with 'grammar errors' in the title of books and other treatises.
Since I didn't find any discussion of the opposing usage on the aforementioned web hits, I thought I would be able to settle it by searching for the concurrence in this ng or alt.english.usage, but, not so.
Grammatical seems more 'proper', but grammar makes sense as well, as there are grammar books, grammar schools, grammar sites, and lots of other examples of 'grammar' being used as a adjective or as a part of a 'new' noun; or whatever you call that construction.

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In another newsgroup a discussion arose about the usage 'grammar errors' as opposed to 'grammatical errors'. Googling the concurrence of ... 'grammar' being used as a adjective or as a part of a 'new' noun; or whatever you call that construction.

In "grammar errors," the word "grammar" is being used attributively. From the entry for "attributive" in *Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary,* 11th ed.: "*2 :* joined directly to a modified noun without a linking verb (as city in city streets )."
I prefer "grammatical error," myself.

Raymond S. Wise
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
E-mail: mplsray @ yahoo . com
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In another newsgroup a discussion arose about the usage 'grammar ... of a 'new' noun; or whatever you call that construction.

In "grammar errors," the word "grammar" is being used attributively. From the entry for "attributive" in *Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary,* 11th ... modified noun without a linking verb (as city in city streets )." I prefer "grammatical error," myself.

Some people erroneously believe that you cannot say "grammatical error", because "grammatical" means "conforming to the rules of grammar" (as in: "This sentence is perfectly grammatical."). Therefore (they say), anything that contains a mistake in the grammar cannot be grammatical, so "grammatical error" is a contradiction in terms.
Well, people who say that are wrong, because another meaning of "grammatical" is "of or pertaining to grammar".
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In another newsgroup a discussion arose about the usage 'grammar ... of a 'new' noun; or whatever you call that construction.

In "grammar errors," the word "grammar" is being used attributively. From the entry for "attributive" in *Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary,* 11th ... modified noun without a linking verb (as city in city streets )." I prefer "grammatical error," myself.

I thought you preferred avoiding them altogether, Raymond.

Redwine
Hamburg
(previously: Berlin, Northants, Derbs, Staffs, NSW, Tasmania, Melbourne, rural Victoria, in that and many other orders)
Raymond S. Wise thus:

In "grammar errors," the word "grammar" is being used attributively. ... verb (as city in city streets )."

Got it. Thanks.
I prefer "grammatical error," myself.

I thought you preferred avoiding them altogether, Raymond.

Ha!

Mike Easter > http://www.verifiedvoting.org
Voter-Verified Paper Trail for 2004 Elections
In "grammar errors," the word "grammar" is being used attributively. ... in city streets )." I prefer "grammatical error," myself.

Some people erroneously believe that you cannot say "grammatical error", because "grammatical" means "conforming to the rules of ... in terms. Well, people who say that are wrong, because another meaning of "grammatical" is "of or pertaining to grammar".

That is the way I always use it. And although I know that my gut feeling is wrong, my gut feeling remains one of irritation (I await comments regarding anal retentiveness) when I see "grammatical" used to mean "conforming to the rules of grammar". It just annoys me. But I have learned to accept that it is very common and somewhat grammatically correctical.

Redwine
Hamburg
(previously: Berlin, Northants, Derbs, Staffs, NSW, Tasmania, Melbourne, rural Victoria, in that and many other orders)
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In "grammar errors," the word "grammar" is being used attributively.From ... in city streets )." I prefer "grammatical error," myself.

Some people erroneously believe that you cannot say "grammatical error", because "grammatical" means "conforming to the rules of ... in terms. Well, people who say that are wrong, because another meaning of "grammatical" is "of or pertaining to grammar".

One of my pet peeves it annoys me as much as the use of the term "slang" to mean simply "informal speech" is "grammatical error" used to mean any sort of error in language usage. I recently came across a newspaper article in which the writer wrote on the subject of "grammatical errors" and went on to identify various usage errors, not one of which had anything to do with grammar!

Raymond S. Wise
Minneapolis, Minnesota USA
E-mail: mplsray @ yahoo . comma