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Hi,

Could you please check for me if I have made any mistakes in these "passive voice(s)"?


We can do this in the private treaty or sell, no agents get involved and needed. (Passive)

The deposit is required to be paid once we have agreed the final price. (Passive)

Hold that button for 5 seconds, all codes will be deleted. (Passive)



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John AkiWe can do this in the private treaty or sell, no agents get involved and needed.

We can do this as a private transaction or as a public sale. No agents need to get involved.

'get involved' is a "get passive". That's not as usual as a "be passive", and it's not considered a true passive voice construction.

... No agents are needed.

This is a true passive.


I don't know how you came up with "private treaty" or what you meant by it. I've never seen "private treaty" in English. Treaties are international agreements. I'm sure that, for example, Japan has treaties with the U.S.

CJ

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John AkiThe deposit is required to be paid once we have agreed the final price.

A deposit IS a payment, so remove "to be paid". Also, there is no previous mention of a deposit, so it's "a deposit" (of an unknown amount), not "the deposit". If "deposit" was mentioned earlier, however, then you can use "the deposit".

We don't "agree something", so you can't "agree the price".

You can "agree on the price", however.

Corrected version:

A deposit is required once we have agreed to the final price.

There is no passive in the correct version.

But "to be paid" in your original is a passive infinitive.

Active infinitives: to pay, to see, to take, to eat
Passive infinitives: to be paid, to be seen, to be taken, to be eaten

We don't say that a whole sentence is passive just because it contains a passive infinitive.

The amount to be paid is $400,000 is an active sentence even though it contains a passive infinitive.

CJ

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John AkiHold that button for 5 seconds,|| and all codes will be deleted.

I have marked the division between two clauses with "| |".

The first clause is an imperative.
The second clause is passive (underlined verb phrase).


Active structures with 'will':

will delete the codes, will eat the sandwich, will fry the fish, will buy the car, will build the fence

Corresponding passives:

the codes will be deleted, the sandwich will be eaten, the fish will be fried, the car will be bought, the fence will be built

CJ

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Thanks Mr CJ,

Could you please check for me again if both of sentences are considered to be correct to you?


Generally banks require a good credits from customer before they can loan the money out.

Generally banks are required a good credits from customer before they can loan the money out.


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John Aki

Corrected version,


Generally banks require a good credit from customer before they can loan the money out.

Generally banks are required a good credit from customer before they can loan the money out.


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BTW,

To answer your question "treaty" is from a dictionary, it should mention this word is a international term for country to country only.

In the private business we use either sale or transaction.


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John AkiGenerally banks require [no article] good credit from a customer before they can loan the money out.

OK as shown. Good. Active form.

John AkiGenerally banks are required a good credit from customer before they can loan the money out.

Passive requires switching the order:

Generally good credit is required before banks (will) lend the customer any money.

'loan the money out' = 'lend (somebody) the money'.


Banks require good credit. > Good credit is required by banks.
Shakespeare wrote the play. > The play was written by Shakespeare.
Nobody explained the rules. > The rules were not explained (by anybody).
The speeding car injured the bicyclist. > The bicyclist was injured (by the speeding car).

Active constructions tell us what someone does or did.

What did Henry throw? Henry wrote threw the ball.

Henry is the actor. He does something. Nothing happens to him.

Passive constructions tell us what happens or happened to something (less often to someone).

What happened to the ball? The ball was thrown (by Henry).

The ball is not the actor. It doesn't do anything. Something happens to it.

CJ

Thanks Mr CJ


John Aki

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