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We respect the privacy of the doctor-patient relationship, and the ... the classroom as a safe space in which to err.

First, since an essential part of learning something new is looking stupid and making mistakes, people should learn not to take it amiss to be told that they have done so. There should be *no* "degree of protection".

In principle you're right of course all really useful learning comes at the risk (the near-certainty actually) of failure, frustration, fear and thus pain. Even Nietzche can teach us something! On the other hand, most of us fear pain, and it's only a short step from that to learning how to avoid it, not by reimagining it as development or empowerment, but by avoiding learning and keeping within the pack. Since group behaviour is also something we humans have learned to value, the result of a "no protections" regime can be a sterile learning setting. I imagine that's the point Donna was making.
What we teachers need to do, amongst other things, is to help students develop risk-taking learning behaviour and to enjoy the rush with the pain. Just as you wouldn't expect a trainee stunt person to take his/her biggest risks when a novice, and would start with basic manoevres, build in a safety net, a harness and so forth, so too with novice learners it's important to convince them through their lived experience that making mistakes is not inherently a personal slight and even if, inevitiably, some think it is, that the cost is worth it.
Second, what was posted did not look like a "mistake"; it looked like an attempt on the writer's part at blustering around the fact that they didn't know what they were talking about and that's a fit subject for ridicule in any context.

That's true enough in this case. I suspect, but can't prove, that the student figured the hubby for a lefty and trotted out what she thought he'd like to hear on the basis that he'd go easy on her for knowing little and tossing it together at the last minute.

Fran
I suspect, but can't prove, that the student figured the hubby for a lefty

Please don't provoke such a stupid discussion. Left-Right has no value for predicting attitudes towards "globalization".
David
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Although when I'm right, I'm right. I hope you agree.

I know I do if you'll agree it has very different implications from the trademarked phrase we apply to someone equally well known here.
I'm sure we all can agree that when you're right, you're right. So it would seem to follow that you're right when you say that when you're right, you're right. Right?

Only in a Deanian sense, not in the Cooperian one. Although he's right when he's right, we'd be left guessing if he said he was right.
Charles Riggs
What we teachers need to do, amongst other things, is to help students develop risk-taking learning behaviour and to enjoy the rush with the pain.

I couldn't agree more, but how often would you find a teacher who'd encourage that much freedom in her students? In my experience as a student, they tend to be the you-do-it-my-way-if-you-want-a-good-grade type of thinker. I learned some of the advantages of risk-taking after graduating, not while I was in school.

Charles Riggs
I suspect, but can't prove, that the student figured the hubby for a lefty

Please don't provoke such a stupid discussion. Left-Right has no value for predicting attitudes towards "globalization".

I take it she meant 'left wing' by 'lefty', making it germane.
Charles Riggs
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Please don't provoke such a stupid discussion. Left-Right has no value for predicting attitudes towards "globalization".

I take it she meant 'left wing' by 'lefty',

So do I
making it germane.

How? Left wing'ism does predict attitudes towards globalization (like I said).
David
Left wing'ism does predict attitudes

Sorry for the missing word etc. I meant to say "does not predict".

Davod
What we teachers need to do, amongst other things, is to help students develop risk-taking learning behaviour and to enjoy the rush with the pain.

I couldn't agree more, but how often would you find a teacher who'd encourage that much freedom in her students? ... thinker. I learned some of the advantages of risk-taking after graduating, not while I was in school. Charles Riggs

It's the official pedagogy in NSW schools, though of course, frequently ignored, because when it doesn't quite work out, the results can be hard to measure, and we teachers are measured by measurable results. It was however, also my policy, before officialdom adopted it because in the end, I have to look myself in the mirror each day and believe that I make a difference to others and by extension, the world.
Fran
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Left wing'ism does predict attitudes

Sorry for the missing word etc. I meant to say "does not predict". Davod

It's a fair point, because parochialism spans the spectrum, but the widespread perception here in Australia bundles radical liberalism with opposition to globalisation.
Fran
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