hello,everyone,my name is susan,and i am a girl who come from China.
i like to learn English very much...i am good at oral, seems that my writing and reading skill is much less than my oral skill,i tried a lots of methods to further study English grammar, but i hate to read the boring english grammar book...
who can help me on it? who can give me good suggestions about it?
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Hi Susan,

Unfortunately there is no substitute for good grammar. Without good grammar, or reasonably good grammar, your sentences may take on a completely different meaning to the one you intended.

If you do not like grammar books you could try learning 'parrot fashion', that is, listening and repeating things so many times that it becomes automatic. One supplier of such material is the 'Pimsleur' company, and I am sure there are many others. One benefit of learning a language this way is that it should also help to improve your pronunciation.

Hopefully other members can offer other suggestions, or opinions.

thanks a lot,Mike.

well,actually,i think the best way to learn english grammar is try your best to reading more. whatever english novels or magazines, that will be good for learning grammar and extend vocabularies...

anyway,thanks for your opinion...Emotion: smile
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I know reading is extremely important, but who would deny that speaking is such a difficult skill and you need to practise it a lot to be fluent. Wouldn't you agree?
Susan, how do you get your speaking so well without good grammar? Do the others understand you clealy? My grammar is better than speaking and I studied it during school. Now I'm eager to promote my speaking.
Listening is also such an important skill, you can practise it by listening to songs, interviews, radio, or watching tv.
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i agree with you in some aspects.

but in my opinion, after you read more,got more vocabularies and expressions,your oral would be much better. be frankly,i think learning oral is less difficult than learning grammar.

for oral , you need to practice it more get more excellent expressions from the others ,jut try your best to express what you imagined and what you thought, and try your best to let the others understand you. don't worry whether your expression's grammar would be right or wrong,just say it aloud,express it confidently... day by day, your oral will progress rapidly.

for grammar, you need to reading the relate books and memory all of the rules,that will be boring things.i hate to reading the boring book and hate memory the rules. i think that's the most important reason why i couldn't learn grammar very well lar....

well,generally speaking,i think learning grammar is more difficult than learning speaking.
hi,linda, so nice to meet you here.

may i know where are you from firstly? (i just wondering if you are Chinese,then we can practice english with each other ...)

i like English very much. especially oral, usually ,i learned oral by listening english songs and model what the native english speaker's pronounce,that's why i got a standard english pronounciation.

i think the others can understand what i said very well. sometimes if they couldn't understand what i said,i will try my best to explain it to them through the other way...until they understand me....

I understand the frustration you are feeling. Your language, Chinese, is what linguists call an "isolating language". All information, such as the time an action occurred, is conveyed by the choice and order of words in a sentence. There are no verb tenses. There are no plurals. In fact, individual words are never altered:

He went there yesterday to buy eggs. (English)
He yesterday go there buy egg. (Chinese)

English is what is called an "inflecting language". Verbs in English are modified to convey temporal information:

I drink beer. (something I do habitually)
I drank beer last night. (past tense)
I have drunk a lot of beer this week. (past perfect)
I have been drinking beer for years. (present perfect progressive)

These sentences, if translated literally from Chinese to English, would read as follows:

I drink beer.
I yesterday night drink beer.
I this week drink a lot beer.
I drink beer many year.

The danger in deciding to "skip grammar" and go directly to using English is that your sentences will look a lot like the above.

Students whose mother tongue is also an inflecting language may have an easier time than Chinese learners in aquiring English grammatical structures.

Studying grammar may at first seem dull, but once your grammar starts improving, you'll be thrilled by the difference this makes in how well you can communicate. Good luck!
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