From the discussion of this forum, how many have we seen emphasize substantiation and logic, and possess the ability of independent thinking and analysis?

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Whew! Not so easy, Jobb, because your structure does not reveal your precise meaning. Try this:

'In the discussions on this forum, how many have we seen who, possessing the abilities of independent thinking and analysis, emphasize substantiation and logic?'

I meant " How many have we seen emphasize substantiation and logic, and how many have we seen possess the ability of independent thinking and analysis?"

Well, you can use my previous sentence subordinating the 'possession' clause; or if you wish to coordinate, you had better use:

'How many have we seen emphasize substantiation and logic, and how many have we seen who possess the abilities of independent thinking and analysis?'

We can observe the act of emphasis, but we cannot observe the act of possession, so you need to rephrase slightly, as I did, to indicate that 'independent thinking and analysis' are already possessed, not in the act of possessing.

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Jobb, this sentence is far too long. How about this:

Among the forum's participants, how many emphasize substantiation and logic? How many are capable of independent thinking and analysis?

'In the discussions on this forum, how many have we seen who, possessing the abilities of independent thinking and analysis, emphasize substantiation and logic?'

Mister Micawber" How many have we seen emphasize substantiation and logic, and how many have we seen possess the ability of independent thinking and analysis?"

JobbWell, you can use my previous sentence subordinating the 'possession' clause; or if you wish to coordinate, you had better use:

'How many have we seen emphasize substantiation and logic, and how many have we seen

whopossess the abilities of independent thinking and analysis?'We can observe the act of emphasis, but we cannot observe the act of possession, so you need to rephrase slightly, as I did, to indicate that 'independent thinking and analysis' are already possessed, not in the act of possessing.

Mister MicawberJobbAmong the forum's participants, how many emphasize substantiation and logic? How many are capable of independent thinking and analysis?

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