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Happy birthday, to start.

Thank you, Harv, if I may call you Harv, but I should point out we're a lot closer to the end than to the start. No biggie.
One's usage obviously changes with age, but putting aside "as-young-or- old-as-you-feel" stuff, I didn't view myself as "middle-aged" until I ... don't expect although one never knows to consider myself as being "old" until I reach the mid-to-late 60s.

Like many people, you are kidding yourself. Whatever rocks your boat, though. At what age do you expect the average man to die? Take that age, divide it by three, subtract that number from the age you expect a man to die and you'll have the start of old age. Doing the math, I became an old man on achieving my 49th birthday. Makes sense since not only does life begin at 40, it effectively ends at 50. (I'm kidding there, Sara, to a degree.)
So as a sample of one, I guess I put middle-aged as "mid 40s to mid 60s";

24 to 49 is more accurate. I know that sounds odd, but we areremarkably good at making ourselves feel better.
But, Joey, my father could do these things at the ... gyms and special exercise regimes, or injunctions to eat vegetables.

Well, good for him. Then you really shouldn't worry too much about him, so long as he will admit to ... are a little bit younger than 88, so maybe a different generation. Why does your mother worry about your father?

(Note the past tense: neither of them are still with us: they both died within the last few years, both in their 90s.)

She probably worried because he'd never fallen out of a tree in 80-some years and she thought his odds must be shortening. No, seriously, by that age some of his joints were slightly creakier than they had been. He offset his considerable experience against any physical difficulties, though. At any rate, he never did fall out of a tree.

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Indeed. What use is living when no gal will give ... I can assure you it's nothing to write home about.

You can have ANY *** as she was at age 20. And, pedophilia won't be illegal, since everyone will have bodies of minors.

As long as they're not morris minors

John Dean
In his new book, Ray Kurzweil suggests that if you ... or 80-year-old body would be such a great thing. http://fantastic-voyage.net /

At any rate, I am looking forward to being able to decide when I want to die. For those of you over 50 or 60, maybe you should think about cryogenics; that way, we can save your brains for later.

I already saved my brain for later. That's where my present postings originate.
But I tell ya, if I'd known I was gonna live this long, I'd've taken w-a-a-a-y better care of myself. Dood.

John Dean
Still, I see little to look forward to. My gout is getting worse, my never-great memory is getting less great ... my trousers with increasing frequency, but since I'm developing an 'I don't give a damn' attitude, life can go on.

I'm almost five years beyond you on the calendar, Charles (my Medicare application is already it), and I could have written that paragraph about myself almost verbatim (my teeth are more persistent than yours). Don't expect things to get any better. I'm not sure even the great wisdom I now display is worth the exchange, but since we aren't offered a choice, I guess we'll just have to carry on.

May you age gracefully and spend many years doing it.

Bob Lieblich
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Having reached the remarkable age of 60 today, I ponder this question.

A day late, but happy birthday, Charles.

The point of education is to correct ignorance. It cannot deal with stupidity. (Mortimer Hebblethwaite, uk.misc)
The bible gives us three score and 10 years. So where, pray tell, do you think middle age is?

Gen 6:3 Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years."
Where does the "three score and ten" come from? ("Score" doesn't appear in the KJV according to www.biblegateway.com. Isaiah gave "seventy years" as "the span of a king's life".

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The bible gives us three score and 10 years. So where, pray tell, do you think middle age is?

Gen 6:3 Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days ... ("Score" doesn't appear in the KJV according to www.biblegateway.com. Isaiah gave "seventy years" as "the span of a king's life".

Psalm 90:10 (King James Version)
The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.
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The bible gives us three score and 10 years. So where, pray tell, do you think middle age is?

Gen 6:3 Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days ... ("Score" doesn't appear in the KJV according to www.biblegateway.com. Isaiah gave "seventy years" as "the span of a king's life".

Threescore and ten seems to be one of those magic numbers in the bible. Here are 21 citations in various contexts, most commonly counting persons, some as components in other numbers. As far as I can see, the only references to threescore and ten years are 1 Chronicles 36:21 and Zechariah 1:12, both of which refer to the land and not to the age of persons.
Gen46:27 And the sons of Joseph, which were born him in Egypt, were two souls: all the souls of the house of Jacob, which came into Egypt, were threescore and ten.
Gen50:3 And forty days were fulfilled for him; for so are fulfilled the days of those which are embalmed: and the Egyptians mourned for him threescore and ten days.
Exod15:27 And they came to Elim, where were twelve wells of water, and threescore and ten palm trees: and they encamped there by the waters. Num33:9 And they removed from Marah, and came unto Elim: and in Elim were twelve fountains of water, and threescore and ten palm trees; and they pitched there.
Deut10:22 Thy fathers went down into Egypt with threescore and ten persons; and now the LORD thy God hath made thee as the stars of heaven for multitude.
Judg8:30 And Gideon had threescore and ten sons of his body begotten: for he had many wives.
Judg9:2 Speak, I pray you, in the ears of all the men of Shechem, Whether is better for you, either that all the sons of Jerubbaal, which are threescore and ten persons, reign over you, or that one reign over you? remember also that I am your bone and your flesh. Judg9:4 And they gave him threescore and ten pieces of silver out of the house of Baalberith, wherewith Abimelech hired vain and light persons, which followed him.
Judg9:5 And he went unto his father's house at Ophrah, and slew his brethren the sons of Jerubbaal, being threescore and ten persons, upon one stone: notwithstanding yet Jotham the youngest son of Jerubbaal was left; for he hid himself.
Judg9:18 And ye are risen up against my father's house this day, and have slain his sons, threescore and ten persons, upon one stone, and have made Abimelech, the son of his maidservant, king over the men of Shechem, because he is your brother;)
Judg9:24 That the cruelty done to the threescore and ten sons of Jerubbaal might come, and their blood be laid upon Abimelech their brother, which slew them; and upon the men of Shechem, which aided him in the killing of his brethren.
Judg12:14 And he had forty sons and thirty nephews, that rode on threescore and ten ass colts: and he judged Israel eight years. 1Sam6:19 And he smote the men of Bethshemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the LORD, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the LORD had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter. 1Kgs5:15 And Solomon had threescore and ten thousand that bare burdens, and fourscore thousand hewers in the mountains;
1Chr2:2 And Solomon told out threescore and ten thousand men to bear burdens, and fourscore thousand to hew in the mountain, and three thousand and six hundred to oversee them.1Chr2:18 And he set threescore and ten thousand of them to be bearers of burdens, and fourscore thousand to be hewers in the mountain, and three thousand and six hundred overseers to set the people a work. 1Chr29:32 And the number of the burnt offerings, which the congregation brought, was threescore and ten bullocks, an hundred rams, and two hundred lambs: all these were for a burnt offering to the LORD. 1Chr36:21 To fulfil the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah, until the land had enjoyed her sabbaths: for as long as she lay desolate she kept sabbath, to fulfil threescore and ten years.

2Chr21:5 And Joab gave the sum of the number of the people unto David. And all they of Israel were a thousand thousand and an hundred thousand men that drew sword: and Judah was four hundred threescore and ten thousand men that drew sword.
Zech1:12 Then the angel of the LORD answered and said, O LORD of hosts, how long wilt thou not have mercy on Jerusalem and on the cities of Judah, against which thou hast had indignation these threescore and ten years?
Acts23:23 And he called unto him two centurions, saying, Make ready two hundred soldiers to go to Caesarea, and horsemen threescore and ten, and spearmen two hundred, at the third hour of the night;
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