# How Should I Understand "X Times More"?

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How should I understand the phrase "x times more" and "x times less?

I'm not sure if they have two meanings each, one you take as an addition and the other as a multiplication.

If for example, I went into the office 4 times and someone "went in the office 5 times more than I did", does that mean that the times they went in there is: 4+5= 9 times? Or should I understand it as a multiplication of 4*5=20 times?

Is it the same understanding for "x times less"?

Eren8hisfatherIf for example, I went into the office 4 times and someone "went in the office 5 times more than I did", does that mean that the times they went in there is: 4+5= 9 times? Or should I understand it as a multiplication of 4*5=20 times?

You have stumbled upon "an unfortunate coincidence", namely, that you are working with two meanings of 'times'. Let's take a different example first — one with just the multiplication meaning of 'times'.

Sally has \$2. Tom has three times as many dollars as Sally.
(2x3 = 6, so Tom has \$6.)
Sally has \$2. Tom has three more dollars than Sally.
(2+3=5, so Tom has \$5.)

Now suppose you are counting 'times' (occasions) that something happened.

Sally punched Tom two times. She punched Bill three times as many times as she punched Tom.
(2x3=6, so Sally punched Bill six times.)
Sally punched Tom two times. She punched Bill three more times than she punched Tom.
(2+3=5, so Sally punched Bill five times.)

The situation you presented is ambiguous.

CJ