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I can not understand the bold section of the description below. Can anyone please help me understand it?

Context:

Kristeva defined the abject as that which is cast aside, neither subject nor object, an indeterminate state, a category which attempts to categorise the uncategorisable:

In the dictionary, abjection signifies a state of degradation, of selfdisgust and disgust towards others. It is both psychological and theological: when one sins, one is in a state of abjection. In my use of the term, I insist on the private aspect: ‘ab-ject’ which means for me that one is neither subject nor object. When one is in a state of abjection, the borders between the object and subject cannot be maintained. In other words, the autonomy or substance of the subject is called into question, endangered. I am solicited by the other in such a way that I collapse. This solicitation can be the result of fascination but also of suffering: the other disgusts me, I abhor it, it is – we are – waste, excrement, a corpse: it threatens me (Art and Advertising by Joan Gibbons).​
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cattttWhen one is in a state of abjection, the borders between the object and subject cannot be maintained. In other words, the autonomy or substance of the subject is called into question, endangered.

It is used to further clarify the previous statement (above).

You can look up all the terms in a dictionary, but you probably also need to use some background knowledge in advertising or media studies to fully grasp the idea.

The picture that comes to my mind is person who becomes an actor, for example, and then becomes a celebrity, and then gets stalked by paparazzi, who they then want to sue for violations of their privacy for protection. (Crazed, jealous fans do stalk and kill celebritites.)

We solicit some "thing" (object) and at some point the subject who has something to offer loses autonomy.

My 2 cents..A very interesting text! Thanks.

It is still difficult to understand its meaning. Is my following interpretation OK:

I am interesting for others in such a way that it collapses me. This interest is the result of fascination or hatred. In the case of hatred, the other person disgusts me, and I am afraid of it. This situation is like a waste and a corpse. It threatens me.

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The idea is that the whole situation causes the desired one to pull away in horror (ab-hor) and disgust into a personal state of abjection and nothingness (loss of autonomy and identity as if paralyzed by fear - or dead.) Something like that.

"Abhor" means more than hate.

The interest is from "fascination or suffering" like jealousy but not hate.

Are you needing to translate? The author plays with words in a very sophisticated way.

We can feel disgust (I am disgusted) but writer chooses to say that "It disgusts me." Note that the passive construction was used. Same thing with abhor and abject. These verbs involve action and interaction.

Can you read from other sources about the author's ideas?

1. In "I am solicited by the other in such a way that I collapse... the other disgusts me", does "the other" mean "any possible person"?


2. In "I abhor it, it is – we are – waste, excrement, a corpse: it threatens me", does "it" mean "this kind of solicitation"?


3. And, does "solicitation" in this context mean "interest and fascination"?

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