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I invite Mr Hershberger to look at your intellectual dishonesty ... but no less of a second-rate tap dancer when cornered.

..what? Oh, sorry. I had dozed off... But yes, this Brooks fellow is a much bigger ass than you. I hope he sticks around. He strikes me as the sort to provide endless entertainment.

You're quite right! Well done!
If you manage to entertain me sufficiently then I may stay to give you pleasure as well. Otherwise I fear that I may go back to my old haunts.

It's up to you - do you measure up?

O how I cried when Alice died
The day we were to have wed!
We never had our Roasted Duck
And now she's a Loaf of Bread!
At nights I weep an cannot sleep,
Moonlight to me recalls
I never saw her Waterfront
Nor she my Waterfalls
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}> He did use it properly!
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} We've established that, in English, he was wrong. In Yank legalese, we } agree that he wasn't. We agree that Yank legalese is illiterate and } needs help from the Plain English Campaign.
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} Of course, if you prefer, any usage in Yank is a 'correct' Yankish usage.

Give it twenty, twenty-five years.

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He did use it properly!

We've established that, in English, he was wrong. In Yank legalese, we agree that he wasn't. We agree that Yank legalese is illiterate and needs help from the Plain English Campaign.

Do we agree on that? I must have missed something. The term has a very specific legal meaning.
Of course, if you prefer, any usage in Yank is a 'correct' Yankish usage.

No, I do not prefer. The Yanks are certainly capable of usages which are incorrect Yanklish. Unfortunately for you this was not one of them.
Izzy
How many times do you have to have explained to you the fact that the judge was absolutely correct?

He wasn't - absolutely - correct. As a Yank, in Yankland under Yankish law he wasn't wrong. We've agree that long ago - It isn't clear quite why you continue to bang on about this point that was established ages ago.

Still, since you do, in English he was wrong. Yankish law is wrong in its abuse of the Latin. The Telegraph was wrong in not translating from Yank.
No matter. If it makes you happy, I have already admitted that I was wrong in saying that it was..
Really, Lass, do you have have a home to go to? Or are you just stuck here?

"Aye, of that Chingis was it said that while he carpeted all Asia with bones, yet might a virgin with a bag of gold walk the length of his dominions without harm, so perfect was his governance" - George MacDonald Fraser, 'The Candlemass Road'
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Yes, you're right. And an optimist. I'd give it fifty years myself before the Yank Empire is dead meat, but you might well be right.
All persons are deemed to have a right to equality of treatment, except when some recognised social expediency requires the reverse. And hence all social inequalities which have ceased to be considered expedient, assume the character not of simple inexpediency, but of injustice, and appear so tyrannical, that people are apt to wonder how they ever could have been tolerated; forgetful that they themselves perhaps tolerate other inequalities under an equally mistaken notion of expediency, the correction of which would make that which they approve seem quite as monstrous as what they have at last learnt to condemn.

The entire history of social improvement has been a series of transitions, by which one custom or institution after another, from being a supposed primary necessity of social existence, has passed into the rank of an universally stigmatized injustice and tyranny. So it has been with the distinctions of slaves and freemen, nobles and serfs, patricians and plebeians; and so it will be, and in part already is, with the aristocracies of colour, race, and sex.

J.S.Mill Chapter V. Utilitarianism
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We've established that, in English, he was wrong. In Yank ... is illiterate and needs help from the Plain English Campaign.

Do we agree on that? I must have missed something. The term has a very specific legal meaning.

Yes, we have agreed. Yankish lawyers are, inter alia, illiterate and ilLatinate.
Of course, if you prefer, any usage in Yank is a 'correct' Yankish usage.

No, I do not prefer. The Yanks are certainly capable of usages which are incorrect Yanklish. Unfortunately for you this was not one of them.

That's OK, you weren't asked, and didn't give an opinion on incorrect Yankish - or, had you done so it made no impression on me.

We agreed on correct Yankish. It seems that we are all of the opinion that Yanks, not just the judge in this particular trial, show their lack of knowledge of Latin on their sleeves (if they still have sleeves) by getting the usage of 'exonerate' wrong. Not only that, but we've established that there are Yanks who support his error and would wish more people to enter into further error at any time they wish.

Actually the matter has been entirely sorted out. It appears, from this conversation, that some Yanks consider it a divine right to be inarticulate and wish to defend this right not to be able to express themselves to extraordinary lengths.
Thankfully I don't live in Yankland, nor am I a Yank.

I'm also happy to know that I haven't offended any Yanks as they will understand (if they understand any of this) that they must be culturally aware of my special position as an intelligent human being and will do their best not to be offended in case my minority group might be aligned with another minority group that they must cede concessions to.

You'll notice that I'm being kind to these Yanks in absolving them, implicitly, of any hypocrisy or racism. I know that they will object to a rational point only if they think the colour if my skin isn't in the current in-group and will (after this posting) be so terrified at the possibility that I might be fashionably coloured as to keep stum.

"Perhaps I intended you to say so, but I meant self-command. You had, somehow or other, broken bounds yesterday, and run away from your own management; but to-day you are got back again and as I cannot be always with you, it is best to believe your temper under your own command rather than mine." Emma, Jane Austen
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I don't think people who have been bored to death take offense easily.
Izzy
I don't think people who have been bored to death take offense easily.

As far as I can tell, you are the only person here not bored enough by His Majesty to actually reply to his posts, and R. Hershberger is the only person here who finds His Majesty amusing and wishes him to remain.
You are doing a terrific job of drawing His Bigoted Majesty out, though. But, seriously, once you've seen the ring of hair around the anus, and once you've witnessed the anus spewing what it is wont to spew, is there any reason for further probing? As an (east) Indian joke has it, "It's (turdles)(1) all the way (up)".
(1) Yanklish pronunciation of "turtles".

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Peter H.M. Brooks wrote, in part:
Thankfully I don't live in Yankland, nor am I a Yank.

Amen, brother. (NTTIAWWNBAY)
You knew someone would say that, right?
Maria Conlon, resident of southeast Michigan, near Detroit.
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