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Hello! Here's a question that's been bothering me lately:
What's the proper way to type the following sentences:

1) "Our field hockey group, including [me, myself] went to the party."

Also:

2) "Our field hockey group, including [him, he] went to the party."

For 2), I'm assuming "him" is correct, but I feel that the correct word to choose is "he" because it is he who is included in the group.

Could someone shed some light on this please? I'd really appreciate it!

Thanks,

Ryan
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I am used to saying including me / us / you / him / her / them / it.
Hello Ryan, welcome to EF!

I would agree with Ruslana.

"Including" is a participle here, from the verb "include" (you might also say that it acts as a preposition). It has the sense "which included" in your examples, e.g.

1. Our field hockey group, which included [me/myself], went to the party.

"Include" takes an object pronoun in all its forms (e.g. "I'll include him in the squad", not "I'll include he in the squad").

So both "me" and "myself" are possible in the first sentence, and "him" in the second; but not "he".

MrP
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Thanks for your prompt replies!
I've always considered myself a lover of grammar, but there are many times when what "seems" to be the correct response is not what it should really be.

In a world where "me too" seems to be the norm in normal conversation, it's always refreshing to catch up on what proper grammar should be!

The only test now is to be able to talk grammatically correct without being rewarded with laughter from my family!

Ryan
"self" is technically a reflexive. So, I wouldn't use it unless the speaker needs to include himself. I am the head of a company, and I gave everyone, including myself, a Christmas bonus. In your original sentence, the team is the subject, so I agree that 'me' is better.
You could not be more wrong. Myself is not acceptable.

Myself is reflexive and can only be used if the word I is in the sentence. This misude is epidemic. Notice how you followed the rule for one example but not the other.
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It´s including "HIM". But I also wonder about me and myself. If it is HIM, it should be ME. Who knows for sure?
Use "including me". As explained above it is correct.

The only way to justify "including myself" is if you claim it is a shortening of ""Our field hockey group, I am including myself, went to the party." ... And that is very awkward.

It reality you don't even need to say "including me" if you are part of the field hockey group. It is redundant if you are part of the group.

"The field hockey group went to the party." ... You are not party of the field hockey group.

"Our field hockey group went to the party." ... You are part of the field hockey group.
I see you just joined us, so welcome to EnglishForward, LoboSol.
LoboSolIt reality you don't even need to say "including me" if you are part of the field hockey group. It is redundant if you are part of the group.
Well, redundancy seems to be present in every language, so I find it perfectly normal to use it.
Anyway, in this case "myself" sounds very good to me, although I can't come up with a good explanation. [:^)]

1) All the team, including me.

2) All the team, including myself.
3) All the team, me included.
4) All the team, myself included.
5) He gave that book to me and Lisa.
6) He gave that book to Lisa and me.

7) He gave that book to myself and Lisa.
8) He gave that book to Lisa and myself.

Some of those examples sound better than others, but I think it's a matter of taste and all of them are actually in use
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