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Jones: Hmmm...maybe you people aren't dumb. Maybe you just never ... that each English vowel has, in general, two different sounds.

You might notice that he's posting from the UK. Evidently the notion of "long" and "short" as the names for the contrast is pretty much limited to the US. (I don't know about Canada.)

They were taught the same way in Australia, at about Prep-Grade 1 level. It was part of the way that reading was taught by sounding out unfamiliar words.
Phonetically, of course, the only place most of us in the US have a length contrast is in pairs like ... short I bit long O boat short O bot long U butte short U but

I think the pronunciation scheme in the old Oxford dictionaries worked like that: a vowel with a long bar over it was the long vowel; one with a concave-up hook above was the short vowel. So Britons should know what they are, even if they didn't call them 'long' and 'short'.

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John
The same applies to most of the non-American posters. A few of them may have been below grade level when they were sophomores, too.

Very few, if any, of the non-American posters would ever have been sophomores. But I know what you mean.

Regards
John
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This is, of course, completely different from all other times ... brand names in pretty much every culture that has them.

Snarl, snort, and for heaven's sake, Evan! I might expect that kind of response from Joey. (Wow, won't this make him feel great?)

You mean Joey has been sarcastic this whole solid time?

You gotta remember in California, people often say the opposite of what they mean. Unlike, say, the British.
And then they'll switch to being as sincere as Wisconsinites. They don't send out any signals.

Best Donna Richoux
A Californian living abroad
Sad, but true. References to historical figures, and biblical and ... metaphorical references to (the more recent) TV commercials and jingles.

This is, of course, completely different from all other times and places, in which the bulk of the people were ... will find a similar familiarity (and expectation of familiarity) with brand names in pretty much every culture that has them.

Of course - in any society in which people didn't become aware of brand names, brand owners would stop wasting their money (OK, our money). The significant point - which you seem to treat very lightly - is the modern pervasion of brand names.

Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England
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This is, of course, completely different from all other times ... day and the items found in their houses and towns.

Of course - in any society in which people didn't become aware of brand names, brand owners would stop wasting their money (OK, our money). The significant point - which you seem to treat very lightly - is the modern pervasion of brand names.

Thank you for the answers. I guess the comment arose my curiosity as to what would be considered essential knowledge in American culture (maybe in many other countries as well). Once upon a time on certain social circles it would have been considered essential for an educated person to be have learnt Latin and Greek, and be familiar with Greek and Roman Mythology. Now it seems that actors, singers, athletes, and corporations form part of everybody's culture. How much knowledge of this topics would be expected?
I would agree that these corporations have become so ubiquitous around the world that we can not but be aware of them. Their names and brands are part of our vocabularies. But asides from knowing their names, How much should we know about these corporations? As Pat said, if this culture is not local; How does it develop? Well, this are not exactly language topics, so I will go off and ponder this questions elsewhere.
Thanks.
Geo
... } He's not stupid. He's got half of aue looking up definitions for him } and he tells ... brighter than you peg him. He's just been skating so long that he's only just recently getting his walking legs.

I supect he does it on purpose. It's part of his AUE act.

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Valentine:
} He's not stupid. He's got half of aue looking up definitions for him } and he tells them that "That's not good enough. Explain it better". } He's just lazy and manipulative. You say that like it's a bad thing.

LOL, I guess it has its advantages. But, I don't like to be manipulative. Lazy? OK. Yes, I am lazy. Manipulation involves messing with other people, though, and I really, sort of, don't like to do that. You guys just know so much, why should I bother using Google and finding some moron's biased website when I can generally get the real* answers here? Plus, you see, I used to not realize that you folks all just depended on Google *yourselves. When Leah and I arrived here, we were conviced you all were super-geniuses or something. She even tried to tell me that people at the AUE were the people who wrote dictionaries and encyclopedias. I told her that that was most likely untrue.

Still, I find it very odd that all of you need Google for everything*. The stuff you pass off as your own knowledge is really just Google and Wikipedia and other people's websites' knowledge. And then you find it shocking when I question things before resorting to Google. Well...I think that is how *most people use message boards and the way AUEers use this place is in the minority.
but lacks the ability to } extrapolate or the initiative to examine.

I don't lack the ability. I just find that stuff boring and unnecessary. If a minimal amount of work can earn you a B, why waste time and effort striving for an A+? It's not worth it.
Pound for pound, he has shown more improvement per year than a lot of people.

How so? Just out of curiosity.
Oddly enough, you're probably just what he needs to get him with the program.

Cooper? Why?
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Dena Jo:
I suspect he's brighter than you peg him. He's just been skating so long that he's only just recently getting his walking legs.

I supect he does it on purpose. It's part of his AUE act.

Someone deserves an award! I don't know who though.
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