I was recently chastised for composing a post to an American tax-related USENET newsgroup using "do do" in one of my sentences.

Here is the quote:
"talk is what politicians do when they don't want to do anything. Sometimes, politicians do do something (not much, but something)"

(REFERENCE: misc.invest.stocks article titled "Can I ever get out of AMT hell (after a tax-naive ISO exercise)" dated Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:19:21 EST)

I ask you American english experts:
Is the use of "do do" a no no in an American English sentence?

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I ask you American english experts: Is the use of "do do" a no no in an American English sentence?(snip)

Although my expertise in AmE is contestable, I would say the venerable Pepys provides a precedent showing that in certain contexts - I would include the one you describe - a "do do" is OK.
1667 Pepys Diary 29 July, He and the Duke of York do do what they canto get up an army.
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I was recently chastised for composing a post to an American tax-related USENET newsgroup using "do do" in one of ... I ask you American english experts: Is the use of "do do" a no no in an American English sentence?

As in "Do do that voodoo that you do to me"? It may look funny, but sentences can certainly be constructed that call for it. Would your critic object to "did do" (as in, "Don't tell me what he didn't do. Tell me what he did do.")? That's just a change of tense, but either seems unremarkable to me.

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(REFERENCE: misc.invest.stocks article titled "Can I ever get out of AMT hell (after a tax-naive ISO exercise)" dated Wed, 14 Feb 2007 11:19:21 EST) I ask you American english experts: Is the use of "do do" a no no in an American English sentence?

no, no, pooh-pooh do do.
No true grammar rule about this, quite acceptable grammar but clearly not acceptable in usage. Use other words.

This "do do" is much like "had I had" and "have you had" and "to do to" usage. Ok grammar but sounds silly.

Why are you participating in a pump and dump stock newsgroup? Those usenet stock groups are not good for your financial health. Have you noticed those groups are a favorite of Cananda's infamous "Howe Street" pump and dump gang? Canada robs a lot of money from American stock players through those criminal newsgroups.

On the AMT, eventually congress will have to act on this. Really no choice because this idiotic tax rule is devasating the American middle class. Nonetheless, we know congress will not act on this until our middle class exhibits retained earnings bordering on the poverty level tax bracket.
Your only escape from AMT is to lower your tax bracket which can be done, but almost always done so, unlawfully. Whatever, NEVER mess with the IRS, never, never.
This reduced fifteen percent tax on capital gains will expire end of this year. Will this be extended another year? I tend to doubt this. I lean towards capital gains tax returning to a minimum twenty-eight percent and up, next year.
Both the AMT retention and ending of lowered capital gains tax, I believe will happen to finance our idiot illiterate president's wars of lies, partnered by England's lying Blair.

You watch your back around those pump and dump groups; you will be suckered, sooner or later, if not already.

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I was recently chastised for composing a post to an American tax-related USENET newsgroup using "do do" in one of ... I ask you American english experts: Is the use of "do do" a no no in an American English sentence?

Ignore the grammar snobs. There are quite a few words this happens with in English, e.g. do, that, in. It's normal and shouldn't be avoided unless there is a risk of misunderstanding.
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I was recently chastised for composing a post to an American tax-related USENET newsgroup using "do do" in one of my sentences.

What were you chastised for? Grammar, or unacceptable language?

As others have confirmed, what you wrote was grammatical; but "do do" is a euphemism for "***".
Were you perhaps the victim of an over-zealous Usenet filtering program?

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I was recently chastised for composing a post to an American tax-related USENET newsgroup using "do do" in one of ... I ask you American english experts: Is the use of "do do" a no no in an American English sentence?

I'm not American, but theis use of "do" is quite standard grammar - the first "do" is simply an emphatic as is the "do" in, for example, "I don't eat out often, but when I do eat out, I prefer Chinese cuisine."

However, as somebody else has already pointed out "do do" is a childish euphemism for "***", so perhaps somebody homed in on this word combination without reading the context.
I wouldn't worry about it.
Dooby dooby dooby do do do, as Frank Sinatra might say. ;-)

Regards, Einde O'Callaghan
As others have confirmed, what you wrote was grammatical; but "do do" is a euphemism for "***".

Only, I would have thought, when it's a misspelling of "doo-doo".

Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org

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I was recently chastised for composing a post to an American tax-related USENET newsgroup using "do do" in one of ... I ask you American english experts: Is the use of "do do" a no no in an American English sentence?

It's perfectly normal American English, just as "Don't do that!" is. I would drop the comma after "sometimes", though.

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