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Which one is correct?

1. The meeting place is changed from ABC to CDE.

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2. The meeting place has been changed from ABC to CDE.

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Not understand. Please kindly explain.

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The meeting place is changed from ABC to CDE. - this sounds as though it just spontaneously happened and no-one was involved in making the change.

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2. The meeting place has been changed from ABC to CDE. Someone changed the arrangements for the meeting place.

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I have dealt with this before, I just can't remember when and in which thread. I don't know what your nationality and native language is, Anonymous, but I assume that you speak a language in which there is always a distinct difference between state and action in the passive voice; in other words, there is more than one passive structure. Perhaps Swedish, which has three passive structures.

In English there is only one passive structure (auxiliary be + the past participle of the main verb), which means that it's easy to learn the passive, but one is in for some problems when one tries to translate from one's mother tongue into English.

Some examples:
The door has been closed. (Action, the reference is to someone closing the door.)
The door has been closed for years
. (State, common sense tells us that closing the door doesn't take years.)

The door is closed all night. (State, we don't think of anyone closing the door, the act of closing. Closed resembles an adjective.)
The door is closed at six o'clock. (Could be either, action or state, but is usually action. English is somewhat inexact. The reference is usually to someone closing the door at six, but not necessarily.)

Should the closing of the door take all night, in my language, Finnish, even that could and would be clearly expressed by employing a different inflected form of the word door.

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Hi, Nona.

I do agree that No. 2 is a better answer but I cannot dispel the notion that the sentence "The meeting place is changed from ABC to CDE" is also acceptable in that people might use to express the approximilarly the same notion as No. 2.

When people say, "The meeting place is changed from ABC to CDE", it is presumed that some action took place before and as a result of that action, some kind of agreement is reached to have the meeting place changed. To me, the sentence will make people think that it happened spontaneously (which might not be your assertion) doesn't ring true (?).
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OK, using logic you know that it can't have spontaneously happened. Meetings don't just change themselves; someone must have changed it.

However, that is what is suggested by the structure of that sentence. In this context, yes, we can work out that someone made the change. In other contexts though, using this incorrectly could lead to great confusion, so it's best to learn and use the correct version in all contexts.

The meeting place has been changed from ABC to CDE.