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Hi, Which of the following sentences is correct:

1) He is gone out of the house
2) He has gone out of the house

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Hello Mr P & CJ

I call the construct . Many grammar books say this construct is rather archaic and takes only a limited number of intransitive moving verbs. But actually I come across such a sentence with a modern verb like "I am parked over there". Furthermore, I have a guess that the American collocation "I am done (=finished)" might come from this construct. Do you think this guess is right?
OED's description about
'be' in combination with intransitive verbs, forming perfect tenses, which use is now largely displaced by have after the pattern of transitive verbs: be being retained only with come, go, rise, set, fall, arrive, depart, grow, and the like, when we express the condition or state now attained, rather than the action of reaching it, as "The sun is set", "Our guests are gone", "Babylon is fallen", "The children are all grown up".

[894 O.E. Chron.], Waes Haesten tha thaer cumen mid his herge. [c1200 Trin. Coll Hom. 173] Alle the sinfulle the fordh sende farene. [a1300 Cursor M. 14322] Thre dais es gan. [c1350 Will. Palerne 1457] The grete lordes..beth lenged now here. [c1450 Merlin x. 165] In evell tyme ben oure enmyes entred. [1523 Ld. Berners Froiss. I. ***. 156] They are rested in there batayls. [1556 Veron Godly Sayings (1846) 145] Aungels, that bene come down from heaven. [1590 Shakes. Com. Err. v. i. 361] These children, Which accidentally are met together. [1628 Hobbes Thucyd. (1822) 62] He gave out they were run away. [1670 G. H. Hist. Cardinals i. i. 24] Some there are, who believe that Miracles are not ceased. [1671 Milton P.R. ii. 140] Therefore I am returned. [1685 Lond. Gaz. No. 2069/4] The Dartmouth is sailed to the westward. [1773 Goldsm. Stoops to Conq. i. i. (1854) 50] He informs me his son is set out. [1852 C. M. Yonge Cameos I. ix. 58] His parents were grown old.

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Hello Paco

That's an interesting example.

"I am parked over there".

Do we take that as a passive transitive? or a 'BE' intransitive? I'm loth to conjecture.

As an aside: what a curious sentence it is. First, we identify ourselves with our vehicle. Then: 'I am parked over there' – pointing to a spot where the speaker is not!

MrP
Hello Mr P

"Someone is/was parked" sounds weird to your ears? I'm wondering if such collocation belongs only to AmE.

"Ray's original alibi, had he gone to trial in 1969, was that he was parked somewhere on South Main Street when the shot was fired and that Raoul ran out of the rooming house, jumped into Ray's car, covered himself with a white sheet, and then exited eight blocks later. Depending on the statement, Ray claimed that, at the time of the shooting, he was -- inside his parked Mustang, standing on the street beside his parked car, and away buying binoculars."[url="http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/crim/mlk/part5.htm "]US Dept of Justice Report[/url] on the Assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King.

"Nicholas J. Barney, truck driver, age 28, was fatally injured at 12:20 p.m. on January 10, 1999, when another haulage truck backed into his truck while he was parked. Barney had 9.5 years mining experience, one year and one month as a miner at this operation. He had received training in accordance with 30 CFR Part 48." [url=""]US Dept of Labor Report[/url]

paco
Sorry, no, it sounds fine!

But I hear it as a passive construction; and that leads me to think how odd it is that we say 'I am parked over there', when we mean 'my car is parked over there'.

(But then, we can say 'we're moored over there', to mean 'our boat is moored over there'; so perhaps I'm burbling.)

MrP
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TERRY:"We can't stay here". JULIA:"Why?" TERRY:"Where are you parked?" JULIA:"On the street." TERRY : "Good. If we keep moving, they might have trouble tracking us." [Screen Plays for you;[url="http://sfy.ru/sfy.html?script=they "]They (2000)[/url]]

OED gives a definition of intransitive 'park' as below and so I took the construct 'be parked' as a sort of , though I'm not so sure.
park
d. intr. To take up a position in or as in a park; to place a vehicle in a park or elsewhere; to occupy a suitable or stationary position; to stay where one is.

1865 O. W. Norton Army Lett. (1903) 255 The wagons parked behind the stables to wait orders. 1926 G. Frankau My Unsentimental Journey xi. 149 There, Stidger put on his brakes, ‘parked’, took out the inevitable keys to lock his gear-lever and ignition-switch. 1929 Strand Mag. Feb. 183 ‘I want them’ persisted the other ‘and I guess I'm parking right here until I do get 'em’. 1948 Democrat 1 Jan. 4/2 Drivers now can park or back into alleys or up to loading platforms with much greater ease. 1959 Daily Tel. 24 Mar. 9/3 Besides asking motorists not to park on main roads, he urged them to use alternative routes. 1966 P. Moloney Plea for Mersey 51 Not hardened junkies, when deprived of dope, Ere felt such anger...As Scouseville driver seeking space to park.


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Hello Paul

I would like to help you. But what do you want to know exactly by asking "why"?

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