I'm having a bit of a disagreement with someone here:

of oxymora#Real Oxymorons

My understanding is that an oxymoron is a combination of words with contrary meanings. There are indeed 'perceived oxymora', based on different meanings of the words involved, such as "fairly dark", "legally forbidden" or "pretty ugly". But is "good grief" one of these, or a genuine oxymoron?
The person who's disagreeing seems to think that it isn't a real oxymoron as it's "just an expression", which doesn't make any difference to me, and as the two words aren't being used with their normal meanings. But the words "good" and "grief" aren't individually put to any meanings, so I'm not sure that that follows.
What do you people think? Where does "good grief" belong on the list?

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I'm having a bit of a disagreement with someone here: of oxymora#Real Oxymorons My understanding is that an oxymoron ... so I'm not sure that that follows. What do you people think? Where does "good grief" belong on the list?

"Good grief!" is merely a euphemism for "Good God!" It's undoubtedly not a genuine oxymoron but an accident. I think there's also an expression "Good gravy!" that is synonymous, but I can't remember where I've read or heard it. You can find it at these links:

http://www.rotteneggs.com/r3/show/se/50448.html
http://www.jerkcity.com/jerkcity1539.html
http://glocktalk.com/sitemap/topic/276160-1.html
The last link is a post titled "Good Gravy, How Did I Miss This?"

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I'm having a bit of a disagreement with someone here: ... people think? Where does "good grief" belong on the list?

"Good grief!" is merely a euphemism for "Good God!" It's undoubtedly not a genuine oxymoron but an accident. I think ... at these links: http://www.rotteneggs.com/r3/show/se/50448.html http://www.jerkcity.com/jerkcity1539.html http://glocktalk.com/sitemap/topic/276160-1.html The last link is a post titled "Good Gravy, How Did I Miss This?"

Good Golly.
Now. Is "Miss Molly" an oxymoron?

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I'm having a bit of a disagreement with someone here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List of oxymora#Real Oxymorons My understanding is that an oxymoron ... so I'm not sure that that follows. What do you people think? Where does "good grief" belong on the list?

That's an awfully good example of one, surely ...
Fran