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When I attended middle school, we had to learn the capital of /every/ country. Nepal: Kathmandu, USA: Washington, Bhutan: Thimphu etc.

Those of us in Washington state don't like having to say 'state' after the name of our state because people refuse to say 'DC' after the nation's capital.

But at least in Europe, "Washington" means the city, "the state of Washington" the state - that is, if they happen to know of the existence of the US state with Seattle as capital and King Bill (Gates) as head of state :-).

Per Erik Rønne
I confess that I don't know any author Grieg; I have only so many names to drop. I turned up several Griegs on Google besides Edvard, but I can't tell which one you meant.

Nordahl Grieg 1902-1943. We read his drama "Nederlaget" ("The Defeat") on the Commune in grade 10 (pupils aged 17-18). In the subject Danish but of course read in its original Norwegian. We didn't read him in upper secondary school (grades 11-13).
He died over Berlin. And if you look up in a proper encyclopædia instead of using google, you will only find him and Edvard Grieg under the name "Grieg". At least in my Encyclopædia Britannica.

Per Erik Rønne
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Except for Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, Massachusetts, Virginia, Maryland, and arguably ... been the only one that changed size in both directions.

Okay ... Virginia got back part of the original District of Columbia, but then it later lost West Virginia, so that was just a blip in a smallward transition. Or are you thinking of something else? ...

Yes, that's what I meant.
I was not counting the westward claims of Connecticut or other states, as these were all disputed, but of course they could be counted if one wanted.
Mark Brader "People who think for a living have always Toronto been especially prone to confuse thinking (Email Removed) with living." G. L. Sicherman

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Those of us in Washington state don't like having to say 'state' after the name of our state because people refuse to say 'DC' after the nation's capital.

Yet some people think badly of foreigners who - understandably, given the above - get the two Washingtons confused from time to time.

Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England
driver's licenses (= BrE "licences";

Actually, = BrE "driving licences".

Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England
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Any American ancestors?

Not Americans coming to Europe, as far as I know, but there are doubtless some relatives somewhere who emigrated from Europe to the US. Everyone in Europe has those.

For sure, but is the direction of emigration tending to move the opposite way? I read that for the first time more Americans are settling here than are Irish settling over there. True a year or two ago, anyway, and I'd think the reasons for it haven't changed. The traditional reasons for going a greater availability of work and a higher standard of living have largely slipped away. I wonder what the situation is for other developed nations in Europe vis-à-vis the US.

Charles Riggs
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The author or the composer?

A wise guy Paris question. If not given more information, Paris is in France and Grieg is the composer. That should confuse no-one.

Charles Riggs
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What country is it you are referring to that predates 1776, let alone one that has existed for 1000 years? Surely not yours.

Probably, Denmark was founded around the third century (Funen, Zealand, Scania). The earliest written records about the Danes come from the 500s, one from Gaul and two from Constantinople.

Everyone has ancestors. These Danes and people from other tribes didn't have a country called Denmark or anything else back then.
Nothing suggests that Sweden isn't as old as is Denmark.

Fine, but it is younger than the United States.
As a people, mericans are no less younger than yours either.

Actually, as a "people" the Americans is a very young people.

Every bit as old as your people even if we don't include the Indians, which we would.
And most countries in Western Europe existed before 1776.

Name just one.
Thirdly, my xenophobic friend,


Proud of one's country to the exclusion of a love for the other ones: xenophobic, in my book, as a result. Patriotic is another word for the condition, not making it any the less serious. It is even contagious.
you might want to look up the word "province".

I do very well know the meaning of the word "province". Besides history, what is the difference between a U.S. "state", a German "Land" - and a Canadian "province"?

RF took this one, followed by many erudite others.

Charles Riggs
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Thus spake Per Rønne:

An American couple that i met in Copenhagen told me that "Scandinavia is a lovely country" :-).

An American couple I met in London told me: "We've done England this week, and tomorrow we're flying to Australia for a week, to do that, too."

Odd. I'd have done France, Germany, Italy, and even Norway first. Maybe the couple had done them already. Yeah, that must be it.

Charles Riggs
Email address: chriggs¦at¦eircom¦dot¦net
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