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On the school rule issue, though, I'm a practical person. I expect teachers to teach. I don't feel they can ... into account, sitting on hearing boards, and listening to the "mitigating" factors that kids are so good at making up.

There are two approaches - write all possible contingencies into the rules, or write the rules as generalizations and let Actual Human Beings (tm) sort out the details later on a case-by-case basis - what seems to actually be done, and what you seem to approve of, is to go with the generalizations but decline to sort them out in any meaningful way
A three day suspension, if it comes to that, isn't going to ruin any kid's life or stop him/her from ... jerk the kid into respecting rules and understanding that what they want to do isn't by default a mitigating factor.

No-one was talking about a three-day suspension. An expulsion has a minimum of one calendar year.
A three day suspension, if it comes to that, isn't ... they want to do isn't by default a mitigating factor.

No-one was talking about a three-day suspension.

I mentioned being suspended or expelled several times.
An expulsion has a minimum of one calendar year.

Who says? It took me one Google for "expelled" to negate this claim. This is the first hit that came up:
http://www.cnn.com/2003/EDUCATION/10/24/boim.diary /

Here's one closer to your home:
"Stormie was expelled from her Huntington, Ind., middle school last October for giving a classmate a medication that her mother had absentmindedly swept into her school notebook while Stormie was home with a cold. To Stormie and her classmate, the pill seemed harmless, "like an aspirin," says Stormie's mother, Machelle Bullock. But school authorities took it seriously enough to expel Stormie for three months."
You're the one objecting to hard and fast rules, but you refer to some rule you heard about somewhere and interpret is as the rule.

Any kid under 16, by the way, that is expelled from one school must be allowed to enter some other comparable program. Over 16 and they are still allowed to enter another program, but the type of student that gets expelled often doesn't.
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Any kid under 16, by the way, that is expelled from one school must be allowed to enter some other comparable program.

Says who?

Steny '08!
Any kid under 16, by the way, that is expelled from one school must be allowed to enter some other comparable program.

Says who?

Certainly not Borstal.
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On Wed, 22 Dec 2004, In message
(Email Removed), Tony Cooper writes
A three day suspension, if it comes to that, isn't going to ruin any kid's life or stop him/her from ... jerk the kid into respecting rules and understanding that what they want to do isn't by default a mitigating factor.

Or, I suspect in most cases, it will be seen as a chance for a few days off school. It may help the other children in the class, but unless there is support from the miscreant's parents, it will not help him one whit.

Mark Browne
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