Guys, I reall need your help on this matter.

I need to verify if the sentence aforementioned in this topic is grammatically correct and logical at the same time because we just had a test on progressive and and perfect tenses and one of the items there went this way:

Rewrite it in it's past progressive form.

* John( take) the test when the bell ( ring).

Although I should supposedly have answered this way: John was taking the test when the bell rang.,

I unknowingly answered: John was taking the test when the bell was ringing.

Guys, I think it's not a mistake.

I still genuinely believe that it could also be an answer. It could also be right.

So I really really need your advice guys.

Please help me as soon as possible guys!

Your efforts will surely be appreciated!

Thanks guys!
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John was taking the test<as> the bell was ringing.

so..
I can't think of a situation where a bell would be ringing during the entire time that someone was taking a test.

Sorry. It doesn't make sense to me to say John was taking the test when the bell was ringing or even John was taking the test while the bell was ringing, which is a little more idiomatic.

Something like the sentence below would make more sense because the two activities might really be happening at the same time.

John was taking the test while the other students were reading.

CJ
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Hi,

That's the problem with lots of these test questions.

ie How do you mark an answer that is not grammatically incorrect, but which is unnatural and requires some unlikely context?

Clive
Hey guys, I really appreciate your efforts in taking your precious time to solve this special case on grammar.

For all of your comments, Thank you all very much!!!

I know this is somewhat complicated but this would not hinder me from making an intensive research on this life-at-stake matter...( why did I say "life-at-stake"?) It's because more than anything else that I have ever wanted to prove in my life this is something I would never ever hold back on to.. for what it's worth..it's worth all that I am and my continouous search for TRUTH!...I'm just giving myself a damn of chance to feed my curiosity that even a case like this really exists.

I genuinely believe that my anwer is also correct just like the supposed one.. so my final assessment would be..there should be two answers for that particular item on the test...that it is grammatically correct just like what some of you said in here..and that it uses a past progressive tense as what the test asked for...though the only thing that should be taken into consideration when it comes to formally accepting this is the fact that my answer ( John was taking the exam when the bell was ringing.) lacks logic...this is according to some of the sources I have... First point, the test I took was not about logic but it's a test on grammar...So if logic is the only problem with regards to my answer...so why can't they accept it as an answer too? though they have already told me during an argument that it could also be an answer? It already came from their very mouth that it could be an answer, thought it's not what it's traditionally supposed to be.

This is a thrilling experience for me and to some of my colleagues here in this English learning academy where I'm teaching. Hopefully I'd be able to solve this unnatural case with flying colors.

and I can't do it any better without your help guys!

I know that you are all professionals and even if you are not, still, gratitude to you all!!!

Please continue to help me find the missing piece of this puzzle and help me to get out of the labyrinth.

This would gain me more confidence and above all wisdom!..and not to mention, friends like you!!!

God bless us all!
Hello Mr. Cj!

Thanks for the reply! That was pretty quick! A million thanks again.

Well, I just have a few questions for you about this matter and with regards to your feedback. I hope you don't mind to answer them.

1. Is it not possible to have my answer as a correct answer too?

why or why not?

2. Could John not take the test when or while the bell was ringing?

If we would use "while" and not "when" in that sentence..it would go this way : " John was taking the exam while the bell was ringing". So, in this case, since while means during but refers to long-lasting action...the sentence would mean that John was taking the exam for the whole time while the bell was ringing...probably from the moment it started to ring until it ended ringing. But if we would use "when"...it would cerntainly be of much better thought or logic if it went this way. "John was taking the exam when the bell was ringing." This would have been a much better answer because it means that in a certain period of time when the bell was ringing John was taking the test... since "when" refers to a more specific period of time rather than "while".

I have also dicovered that they often use "while" instead of "when" in making sentences with past progressive form...when, basically, the words when and while can be used interchangeably since they mean the same...though are really exceptions or differences between..However, think they are generally the same.

while= during

when= during

I have opened up this issue about when and while because one of my colleagues tried to butt in to one of my debates on this matter..on whether my answer is correct or not or my answer should be considered or not... and he said that if my answer were correct I should have used while and not when. So that's the reason CJ.

Please feel free to write back and if there are vague stuffs here to be cleared please let me know.

Thanks CJ!

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bar9on, Thanks sir!

Maybe it would be better when it went this way:

When John was taking the exam, the bell was ringing so he didn't...or... so he was not able to.. or... so he couldn't hear really hear what I was telling him.

What do you think?

another example:

John was taking the exam when the bell was ringing so I he didn't hear me as I was laughing out loud.
bar9on, Thanks sir!

Maybe it would be better if it went this way:

When John was taking the exam, the bell was ringing so he didn't...or... so he was not able to.. or... so he couldn't hear really hear what I was telling him.

What do you think?

another example:

John was taking the exam when the bell was ringing so I he didn't hear me as I was laughing out loud.
Hello Mr. Cj!

Thanks for the reply! That was pretty quick! A million thanks again.

Well, I just have a few questions for you about this matter and with regards to your feedback. I hope you don't mind to answer them.

1. Is it not possible to have my answer as a correct answer too?

why or why not?

2. Could John not take the test when or while the bell was ringing?

If we would use "while" and not "when" in that sentence..it would go this way : " John was taking the exam while the bell was ringing". So, in this case, since while means during but refers to long-lasting action...the sentence would mean that John was taking the exam for the whole time while the bell was ringing...probably from the moment it started to ring until it ended ringing. But if we would use "when"...it would cerntainly be of much better thought or logic if it went this way. "John was taking the exam when the bell was ringing." This would have been a much better answer because it means that in a certain period of time when the bell was ringing John was taking the test... since "when" refers to a more specific period of time rather than "while".

I have also dicovered that they often use "while" instead of "when" in making sentences with past progressive form...when, basically, the words when and while can be used interchangeably since they mean the same...though there are really exceptions or differences between them..However, think they are generally the same.

while= during

when= during

I have opened up this issue about when and while because one of my colleagues tried to butt in to one of my debates on this matter..on whether my answer is correct or not or my answer should be considered or not... and he said that if my answer were correct I should have used while and not when. So that's the reason CJ.

Please feel free to write back and if there are vague stuffs here to be cleared please let me know.

Thanks CJ!

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