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I just can't get the hang of fizzy pop, especially ... I can't rid myself of a sense that it's unnatural.
And that would be relevant to being able to tell the difference between Coke and Pepsi because ...?
... I can't remember the last time I tasted either.
Mike.
Mark Brader:
Andrew Gwilliam:
Many people seem to be, but this is just wrong. It confuses three separate events, of which the only connection with the treaty is that one of them was possible because the US did not sign it.
Yes, but I don't have time to post about it again now.
Mark Brader, Toronto "Argh! Hoist by my own canard :-) !" (Email Removed) Steve Summit
Well, that one fits the hypothesis. "Aspirin" is a tradermark in Canada, but not in the US or Britain.
Andrew Gwilliam:
I was under the impression that the trademark had been given up at the Treaty of Versailles...
Many people seem to be, but this is just wrong. It confuses three separate events, of which the only connection with the treaty is that one of them was possible because the US did not sign it.
Does anyone have any knowledge of this?
Yes, but I don't have time to post about it again now.
Mark Brader, Toronto "Argh! Hoist by my own canard :-) !" (Email Removed) Steve Summit
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Mark Brader: Andrew Gwilliam:
You tease!
Andrew Gwilliam
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Ar an ceathrú lá is fiche de mà Márta, scrÃobh Andrew Gwilliam:
Part of the story is here:
of the name .22Aspirin.22
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Mark Brader: Andrew Gwilliam: Many people seem to be, but ... them was possible because the US did not sign it.
Part of the story is here:
of the name .22Aspirin.22
Yes, but I don't have time to post about it again now.
You tease!
âI, for instance, am gung-ho about open source because my family is being held hostage in Rob Maldaâs basement. But who fact-checks me, or Enderle, when we say something in public? No-one!â Danny OâBrien
Ar an ceathrú lá is fiche de mí Márta, scríobh Andrew Gwilliam:
Part of the story is here: of the name .22Aspirin.22
Hm. That doesn't fill in the details though. On what basis did the US Government obtain ownership of the trademark? This seems to come back again to frequent assertions on web pages that this is to do with the Treaty of Versailles, but I haven't seen any convincing explanation of what exactly happened, and how.
Andrew Gwilliam
To email me, replace "bottomless pit" with "silverhelm"
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Ar an ceathrú lá is fiche de mí Márta, scríobh Andrew Gwilliam: Part of the story is here: of the name .22Aspirin.22
Hm. That doesn't fill in the details though. On what basis did the US Government obtain ownership of the trademark? ... to do with the Treaty of Versailles, but I haven't seen any convincing explanation of what exactly happened, and how.
I'd heard somewhere or other that it was confiscated when we went to war with Germany-it's being part of the spoils is new to me. (I have absolutely no evidence of this.)
Aaron Davies
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As a matter of update, I can't remember hearing "biro" used generically in Br since about 1967. It ... recently heard it used that way. I think most people just say "pen", attaching "ball-point" if the distinction is important.
It's in several bits of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy , as well as a Blackadder sketch, IIRC.
Aaron Davies
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} But I think it's more that so many of them aren't originally from D.C. } Have you heard NPR radio personality Diane Rehm? She's a white woman who } grew up in D.C., and she sounds rather Southern to me. So she may be } typical of her generation. People my age who grew up in D.C. don't sound } Southern at all to me, though I can think of one such person who has a } tendency to say "you all".
One of my descendants, who was born in the District and grew up north of it in the county south of it, doesn't sound southern (but has been known to make fun of New Jersey accents).
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} With Florida it cuts both ways, since a lot (= SAfrE "alot") of those } retirees are retired military, aren't they? And for the past 50 years } military (esp. Army) AmE has been markedly Southern-influenced, for } reasons that aren't entirely clear to me (though I think the military } itself has been disproportionately Southern, hasn't it, for some time, for } socioeconomic reasons).
}
} My second cousin once removed (?) Georgie, raised near Boston FTMP, had a } career in the Army, and he developed a Southern-ish accent from that. For } an older example, I've read that Brooklynite author Norman Mailer picked } up a Southern-ish accent from his service in the Army during World War II. }
} "Southern" in these cases might really be "Midland". To us } Northeasterners and Northerners, Midland speakers like speakers of } RayWisE I suppose sound Southern. Think of the late Fred Rogers, who } was from western Pa.I have a clue as to what the normative Army accent is (not that I was really aware of it at the time). When I went back to college after serving with the forces that guard our nation's way of life, one of the first courses I had to take for my new major was a speech class, and the first thing the teacher did was have the class each give a little talk about nothing. After everyone was finished, she went around telling people where she thought they had grown up.
Apparently she was pretty accurate for the others, but she had me pegged for the mountains of Kentucky, when in fact I was born and learned to talk within walking distance of the campus in Queens and spent most of the rest of my pre-Army years two counties farther out on the Island (still within walking distance, I can say with the certainty of having done it).
She was obviously from Philadelphia, and seemed to have no awareness of the Philadelphia "o".
Kentucky is sort of southern, but not dramatically southern.
R. J. Valentine
} But I think it's more that so many of them aren't originally from D.C. } Have you heard NPR radio personality Diane Rehm? She's a white woman who } grew up in D.C., and she sounds rather Southern to me. So she may be } typical of her generation. People my age who grew up in D.C. don't sound } Southern at all to me, though I can think of one such person who has a } tendency to say "you all".
One of my descendants, who was born in the District and grew up north of it in the county south of it, doesn't sound southern (but has been known to make fun of New Jersey accents).
...
} With Florida it cuts both ways, since a lot (= SAfrE "alot") of those } retirees are retired military, aren't they? And for the past 50 years } military (esp. Army) AmE has been markedly Southern-influenced, for } reasons that aren't entirely clear to me (though I think the military } itself has been disproportionately Southern, hasn't it, for some time, for } socioeconomic reasons).
}
} My second cousin once removed (?) Georgie, raised near Boston FTMP, had a } career in the Army, and he developed a Southern-ish accent from that. For } an older example, I've read that Brooklynite author Norman Mailer picked } up a Southern-ish accent from his service in the Army during World War II. }
} "Southern" in these cases might really be "Midland". To us } Northeasterners and Northerners, Midland speakers like speakers of } RayWisE I suppose sound Southern. Think of the late Fred Rogers, who } was from western Pa.I have a clue as to what the normative Army accent is (not that I was really aware of it at the time). When I went back to college after serving with the forces that guard our nation's way of life, one of the first courses I had to take for my new major was a speech class, and the first thing the teacher did was have the class each give a little talk about nothing. After everyone was finished, she went around telling people where she thought they had grown up.
Apparently she was pretty accurate for the others, but she had me pegged for the mountains of Kentucky, when in fact I was born and learned to talk within walking distance of the campus in Queens and spent most of the rest of my pre-Army years two counties farther out on the Island (still within walking distance, I can say with the certainty of having done it).
She was obviously from Philadelphia, and seemed to have no awareness of the Philadelphia "o".
Kentucky is sort of southern, but not dramatically southern.
R. J. Valentine
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As a matter of update, I can't remember ... just say "pen", attaching "ball-point" if the distinction is important.
It's in several bits of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy , as well as a Blackadder sketch, IIRC.
And in the Smith and Jones's sketch about the lifes of two ex-schoolmate inventors Biro and Bic, who spoke with extraordinary foreign accents. :-)
Paul JK
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