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When I saw that Donald Trump's Twitter account was 'suspended', I assumed that was a temporary thing. According to Collins dictionary to suspend means 'to render inoperative or cause to cease, esp. temporarily'.

However, our national newspapers translate it along the lines of "the account has been banned definitively". (That's a back-translation, which is a scientifically doubtful procedure, but I hope you can get the gist).

I suppose these newspapers are right, but how can we identify whether 'suspend' is used in its more temporary or its more definitive meaning?

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IAmWithName2When I saw that Donald Trump's Twitter account was 'suspended', I assumed that was a temporary thing.

It was originally a temporary decision.

After the chaos and the insurrection, Twitter decided to make it permanent.

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IAmWithName2According to Collins dictionary to suspend means 'to render inoperative or cause to cease, esp. temporarily'.

This is a good reason to stop using Collins. It only means temporarily. And it is not clear what is meant by "definitively" in your translation. If an account is suspended, it has been rendered inactive for an undetermined period of time, not permanently.

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AlpheccaStarsIt was originally a temporary decision. After the chaos and the insurrection, Twitter decided to make it permanent.

Thanks, @AlpheccaStars. The realDonaldTrump on Twitter still says "Account suspended". So does this mean that that text is not updated to reflect Twitter's decision or does 'suspended' refer to the 'permanent suspension' mentioned in their rules and policies at https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/election-integrity-policy and can 'suspend' also mean 'end forever'?

What is not clear about 'definitively'? The twitter terms speak of 'permanent suspension' which suggests that to suspend also has a permanent meaning. But correct me if I'm wrong!

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What is not clear about 'definitively'? The twitter terms speak of 'permanent suspension' which suggests that to suspend also has a permanent meaning. But correct me if I'm wrong!

No, you correct me. Please provide a dictionary definition of "definitive" that applies to your sentence (However, our national newspapers translate it along the lines of "the account has been banned definitively".). I couldn't find one. And if the Twitter terms speak of a "permanent suspension", they must be using Collins, too. Not everything you read, especially on the Internet, is going to be good English.

IAmWithName2The twitter terms speak of 'permanent suspension' which suggests that to suspend also has a permanent meaning.

They may be using "suspension" in the off chance that a new crop of MAGA-directors will decide to revoke the suspension, or if they lose a court case and are required by law to reinstate the account.

If they removed the account completely and you tried to find the page, it would return an error. Keeping the account "on record" but "suspended" is probably a safer solution. There is no given time limit on when a suspension must end.

anonymousour national newspapers translate it along the lines of "the account has been banned definitively

It sounds like a mistranslation to me. I would have expected your national newspapers to translate it as "has been banned indefinitely" if they were translating "has been suspended".

CJ

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anonymousThis is a good reason to stop using Collins. It only means temporarily. And it is not clear what is meant by "definitively" in your translation.

I agree. Suspended is also a term used in schools in the UK and it is when a pupil has to stay away for a period of time, because of bad behaviour. When they have to leave permanently for the same reason it is known as being excluded.

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