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}> Also, I know quite a large number of married women who get quite angry }> when addressed, by voice or letter, as "Ms".
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} I can't imagine that I don't get angry when addressed as "Miss" or } "Mrs." What is it about it that angers them?
One that I know is married and proud of it and doesn't brook suggestions that she's not.
Other reasons for other people include that people should respect within reason the form of address the addressed prefer.

R. J. Valentine
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I'll never forget the shock of the day when children started calling me "ma'am" rather than "miss."

As we age we tend to remember earlier events better than more recent ones. I therefore remember quite vividly turning ... at the point where young women hold doors for me. I don't know whether to dread it or enjoy it.

I went through a couple of periods, nearly 20 years ago, when young women held doors open for me, which was quite a surprise. It was because I had a baby strapped to my chest.

David
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Dena Jo typed thus:
I'm now at the point where young women hold doors for me. I don't know whether to dread it or enjoy it.

I will never to hold a door for you.

DJ, that page is not good for email hiding purposes - your address is in clear text in the html source of the page.

David
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Major groups of Ms-users: 1. Screeching, castrating, man-hating bitches 2. Mousy-but-I-still-got-you-by-the-balls bitches (Hi, Muffy!) 3. Bitter, divorced bitches (Hi, Truly!) ... all media and reference works 9. Profit-hungry businessmen (who also use "gender" for "sex") 10. All "socially sensitive" government agencies

11. People who would like to address someone, or refer to them, as "Mrs"or "Miss", but don't know which applies.
ObUsage: "...or refer to her..."? Nah.

Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England
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As we age we tend to remember earlier events better than more recent ones. I therefore remember quite vividly turning ... at the point where young women hold doors for me. I don't know whether to dread it or enjoy it.

Adults of both sexes hold doors open for each other in this country. Not always, but very often.

Charles Riggs
My email address: chriggs/at/eircom/dot/net
Mr. for Master Mrs. for Mistress Miss for Mistress Ms. for

This took me by surprise. Do you honestly think women who use "Ms." are bitches?

If you are one of them, then not all.
It isn't a good sign though watch out for possible fireworks. Secure women here: I don't know, or know of, a single Irish lass who goes by Ms.

Charles Riggs
My email address: chriggs/at/eircom/dot/net
There's nothing funny about Ms bitches. Major groups of Ms-users: ... use "gender" for "sex") 10. All "socially sensitive" government agencies

11. Women who find double standards offensive.

Will you remind me again of that term you have for men? Highly apropos to the word 'bitches', that term.

Charles Riggs
My email address: chriggs/at/eircom/dot/net
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In fact, it leads to errors. Addressing someone as "Mrs ... avoids this. It removes the awkwardness. It is always correct.

Whilst agreeing with all the above, "Ms" has a pronunciation problem. Also, I know quite a large number of married women who get quite angry when addressed, by voice or letter, as "Ms".

Are those women, by any chance, over the age of, oh, 75? I'm trying hard to think of anyone I know who prefers "Mrs" (let alone gets angry over the matter) and failing. All I can think of is that I might find some if I surveyed that age group.
I was surprised enough to learn that the only woman I know who got married in the last three years (in the US) actually took her husband's surname. How retro.

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