re: New Interactive Online Dialect Survey page 8

They're found throughout New Jersey, and perhaps nowhere else; remember that NJ was one of the first densely populated areas ... seriously rebuilt because it would be impossible to close down even one lane of it at a time for work.

I suppose most countries have their own "spaghetti junction". This is ours: http://www.multimap.com/maps/?&hloc=GB>6006#t=l&map=-31.95804,115.8514>17>4&loc=AU:-31.9...

Tiny:
http://tinyurl.com/2kr9sj

Rob Bannister

Many of (these complex junctions) have been replaced with more practical schemes, but some can't be such as the ... seriously rebuilt because it would be impossible to close down even one lane of it at a time for work.

What happens when the road surface needs extensive repair?

Alan Jones

practical schemes, but some can't be such as the ... even one lane of it at a time for work.

What happens when the road surface needs extensive repair?

If you'll drive through some lanes of it, you won't ask that question!

Actually, the Pulaski Skyway is about to have a $10 billion, 10-year renovation (it was planned before the bridge fell down in Minneapolis, but that caused it to have lots of publicity), and this knot at its eastern end might (somehow) get redone. This past year, they've been rebuilding the double-deck highway that leads from it to the Holland Tunnel, and the traffic patterns have changed every few weeks as successive ramps are replaced. I wonder what will happen when the two levels of the main road, maybe half a mile long, get their chance.

If you'll drive through some lanes of it, you won't ask that question! Actually, the Pulaski Skyway is about to ... wonder what will happen when the two levels of the main road, maybe half a mile long, get their chance.

While I enjoyed taking the quiz and looking at the map, I also found it a bit confusing. Did anybody feel that way? Curious.

They're found throughout New Jersey, and perhaps nowhere else; remember ... even one lane of it at a time for work.

If the need is perceived as great enough, it will get done. DC has been through a couple years of pain and grief sorting out the "Mixing Bowl" that is the Springfield Interchange. Also finished building a whole new Beltway bridge over the Potomac. Not bad for the second or third worst traffic area in the US.

I suppose most countries have their own "spaghetti junction". This is ours: http://www.multimap.com/maps/?&hloc=GB>6006#t=l&map=-31.95804,115.8514>17>4&loc=AU:-31.9... Tiny:

Here's one of ours:
http://tinyurl.com/2e5gu6
or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield Interchange

Padraic

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If the need is perceived as great enough, it will get done. DC has been through a couple years of ... whole new Beltway bridge over the Potomac. Not bad for the second or third worst traffic area in the US.

Note, however, that the Springfield Interchange is entirely in Virginia and the Woodrow Wilson Bridge was paid for mostly by Virginia and Maryland. And all the completion of the Springfield Interchange seems to have accomplished is to transfer the bottlenecks elsewhere.

Still, it could be worse. If the Metro ever stopped running, it would be almost as crippling to the Washington area as the loss of the subway would be to NY or the tube to London.

If the need is perceived as great enough, it will ... the second or third worst traffic area in the US.

Note, however, that the Springfield Interchange is entirely in Virginia and the Woodrow Wilson Bridge was paid for mostly by Virginia and Maryland.

Well, I'm not really concerned about who actually pays for it I was responding to the engineering and logistics nightmares of shutting down major highways and shunting zillions of vehicles onto alternate pathways in order to get the work done. Virginia obviously felt the need was great enough and was willing to take on the task. Jersey apparently is not so willing! Looking at the pictures, I'd say the two interchanges are comparable in their spaghettitude.

And all the completion of the Springfield Interchange seems to have accomplished is to transfer the bottlenecks elsewhere.

This is quite true, but what is key to keep in mind here is that Springfield is now (comparatively) bottleneck free!

Still, it could be worse. If the Metro ever stopped running, it would be almost as crippling to the Washington area as the loss of the subway would be to NY or the tube to London.

That's true. The other railroads won't be able to take up the slack (yet).
Padraic

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