There's a new page on the alt-usage-english site, showing the pronunciation of some regular contributors' names.

http://alt-usage-english.org/audio gallery/
The page was created after a suggestion by Nobuko Iwasaki and subsequent discussion in this newsgroup. I've included on the page all the people involved in that discussion, except those that didn't respond to my invitation (due principally to mailboxes overflowing with Swen messages). They are:
Reinhold (Rey) Aman
Robert Bannister
Mike Barnes
Dr Robin Bignall
Maria Conlon ("Tootsie")
Jitze Couperus
Bob Cunningham
Aaron J. Dinkin
R H Draney
Dena Jo
Evan Kirshenbaum
Sara Moffat Lorimer
Donna Richoux
Charles Riggs
Harvey Van Sickle
Garry J. Vass
Michael West
Raymond S. Wise
To everybody involved - thank you.
I welcome further contributions from anyone else who'd like to see their name on the page. Here's an extract from the page describing why I think it would be a good idea to add your name."The more names we have, the better. Even if the pronunciation of your name is so obvious that anyone could work it out from the spelling, we'd still like to see it - this page serves as an interesting and fun exercise for people learning ASCII IPA, and a few easy ones would be greatly appreciated. But as reactions to this page have shown, the pronunciation of many names certainly isn't obvious, especially to many non-native English speakers.

Even native speakers have been surprised to discover that the way they'd imagined a name being pronounced was in fact quite wrong, and have been delighted to learn the "proper" pronunciation. It's instructive to see how our preconceptions can lead us astray. The sound files, where available, remove all possibility of error, and provide a personal touch that is missing from a lot of the material in aue."
Take a look at the page to see how to get your name added.

Mike Barnes
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There's a new page on the alt-usage-english site, showing the pronunciation of some regular contributors' names. http://alt-usage-english.org/audio gallery/ The page ... lot of the material in aue." Take a look at the page to see how to get your name added.

Lord love a duck! Will you be forgetting how to pronounce "Michael West" and get on with posting Charles Rigg's photograph!
Lord love a duck! Will you be forgetting how to pronounce "Michael West" and get on with posting Charles Rigg's photograph!

Obviously, you haven't looked. It's there.

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Lord love a duck! Will you be forgetting how to pronounce "Michael West" and get on with posting Charles Rigg's photograph!

Obviously, you haven't looked. It's there.

So it is. There should have been fanfare or at least a rattle of snare drums. Surprisingly ordinary looking, isn't he?

But what, though, is the sign over his left shoulder? Is that the international symbol for "Don't run with scissors", an Irish sign that means "If you are really in a hurry, there's a second bog downstairs", or directions to an indoor track?
} There's a new page on the alt-usage-english site, showing the } pronunciation of some regular contributors' names. }
} http://alt-usage-english.org/audio gallery/
}
} The page was created after a suggestion by Nobuko Iwasaki and subsequent } discussion in this newsgroup. I've included on the page all the people } involved in that discussion, except those that didn't respond to my } invitation (due principally to mailboxes overflowing with Swen } messages). They are:
}
} Reinhold (Rey) Aman
Funny, but this time it did sound like "RAINhold ARnold AHmahn" wait, I mean "RAINhold AHLbairt AHmahn" (rather than "RHINEhold, as it seemed to last time, maybe because I was expecting that).
} Robert Bannister
} Mike Barnes
What I want to know is whether Mr. Barnes expects people to pronounce his name "BAHNS", rather than "BARNS", or does he just not care.

} Dr Robin Bignall
} Maria Conlon ("Tootsie")
} Jitze Couperus
} Bob CunninghamNow this one here was utterly fascinating to me, who was thoroughly convinced by the "father caught hot coffee" recording that there was an "aw"/"ah" merger there, because all the vowels sound half-way between, sort of like the cardinal (A) sound in two of the three professional recordings of it. But the 'People call me "Bob"' segment of Mr. Cunningham's recording at the above URL has a near-perfect "aw" and "ah" that could easily become the alt.usage.english standard for "aw" and "ah".

Listen for the excellent "PEEP-l CAWL mee BAHB" in that recording. I'd hesitate to express it in ASCII IPA, which is notoriously clumsy for aw's and ah's, because the perfect "aw" is somewhere between (A) and (O), and the perfect "ah" is somewhere between (a) and (A). But Mr. Cunningham has them both nailed in this one recording (the "ah" in "Robert" is a good one, too, but the "ah" in "Bob" is right close to the "aw" in "call", so it makes for a good snippet.

I want to apologize here and now for any hints I may have dropped in the past that Mr. Cunningham can't seem to do a proper "aw" or "ah". Anyone who wants a sound recording of what I'm talking about when I mention aw's and ah's need only listen to Mr. Cunningham's 'People call me "Bob".'

R. J. Valentine /'ardZEj'[email protected],tajn/
The aue webmaster filted:
The page was created after a suggestion by Nobuko Iwasaki and subsequent discussion in this newsgroup. I've included on the page all the people involved in that discussion, except those that didn't respond to my invitation (due principally to mailboxes overflowing with Swen messages).

Shame that Iwasaki-san's own name isn't on the list, but given the near-legendary consistency of Japanese phonetics, I suppose there's less actual need for it than for some of the others..
Would have have liked to have seen the pronunciation of Padraig's name documented in an accessible place, though..r
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Would have have liked to have seen the pronunciation of Padraig's name documented in an accessible place, though..r

I would like to hear it.
BTW, good job, Mike! Now, having said that, how much trouble would it be to put a sound icon on the full picture page which people could click on and hear the associated .wav file? And can someone tell me what equipment and applet (presumably) I would need to make a recording of "Dena Jo... but you can call me dollface."

Dena Jo
Kidding...
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} Mike Barnes What I want to know is whether Mr. Barnes expects people to pronounce his name "BAHNS", rather than "BARNS", or does he just not care.

That depends on the people. I'd expect (typically) English people to pronounce it "BAHNZ" and (typically) American people to pronounce it "BARNZ".
Happy now?
What actually happens is that I say "MIKE BAHNZ" to an American and they think I'm an Australian called "MARK BONDS".

Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England
The aue webmaster filted:

The page was created after a suggestion by Nobuko Iwasaki ... my invitation (due principally to mailboxes overflowing with Swen messages).

Shame that Iwasaki-san's own name isn't on the list, but given the near-legendary consistency of Japanese phonetics, I suppose there's ... the others.. Would have have liked to have seen the pronunciation of Padraig's name documented in an accessible place, though..r

Good points, both of them. I'm onto it. Them.

Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England
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