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Hi teachers,

What does the sentence below mean?Why THAT is used here ?:

It was not half as good as that other restaurant we went to.

Thank you in advance
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I'd say it's strictly a conversational ploy to stress that you're too lazy to specify exactly what restaurant you're talking about, but you hope the people you're addressing will know which one you mean.

- A.
Hi Avangi,

I'm not lazy at all .I did try my best to understand the phrase not half as by looking at the examples given by the dictionary , unfortunately I still don't understand exactly what it means. The sentence I ask you about is taken from my advanced Cambridge dictionary, not mine . My dictionary says "not half as "or "not half such a " means" not nearly as " and here are the examples given by it:

I didn't feel half as cold once they they had put the heating on.

It was not half as good as that other restaurant we went to .

Frankly speaking , I 'm still confused aboutthe exact meanings of these two sentences .

Best wishes
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Here. There.
Restaurant A. Restaurant B.
Here: This restaurant. There: That restaurant.
Here: This restaurant. There: The other restaurant.
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10. Half of 10 = 5.
20. Half of 20 = 10.
50. Half of 50 = 25.
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-- How would you rate Restaurant B on a scale of 1 to 10?
-- I think I would rate it 10!!! It's very, very good.
-- How would you rate Restaurant A on a scale of 1 to 10?
-- I think I would rate it 4. It's not very good.
-- Hmmm. Half of 10 is 5. You have rated Restaurant A less than 5. You rated Restaurant A as 4. That's less than half of your rating for that other restaurant -- Restaurant B.
-- Yes. Restaurant A was not half as good as that other restaurant. It was less than half as good as Restaurant B.

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CJ
Oh, (sigh), how do I get into these situations? I didn't say you were lazy.

You never asked about "not half as."! You asked why they use the expression "that restaurant." My answer was that it's used in conversation when you can't explain yourself. "You know - that restaurant - you know the one I mean."

I can't run half as fast as my brother can.

The new James Bond is not half as good as the old one - not anywhere near as good!

Joe isn't even half as strong as Jim.

These expressions don't necessarily mean exactly half. They mean to stress that the comparison between two things is not close. - not even in the same league - not even in the same ballpark.

Car A can go 200mph. Car B can't even go half as fast. Technically, that means it might be able to go 90mph. But maybe in fact it can go 180mph. In some people's minds, that's not even close.

Edit. Sorry, I see you did ask "What does the sentence below mean?" or something like that. I missed it.
Thank you Avangi very much,I understand the phrase "not half as" now , but I am still confused about why THAT can be used before OTHER . It's sounds strange to me . I 've ever heard "The other restaurant ..." I 've never heard "that other restaurant " .

By the way , please check that my sentences below are correct:

a/Imitation goods are about eighth-tenths of the quality of our authentic goods.

b/This restaurant is good as well , but it is only about seven-tenths of the restaurant I went to yesterday.

Best wishes
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The first sentence is OK. The second one seems vague. What do you want to compare when talking about these two restaurant. Add that and your sentence may be clearer.

About the sentence in your first question, THAT is a demonstrative pronounce; to put it in the context, those who are involved in the conversation will know together which restaurant the speaker wants to indicate, not THE OTHER RESTAURANT in common
"That other" is a common form of words; there's nothing strange about it. Generally speaking, and in my opinion:

"The other" is more likely to be used when there are only two possibilities in the frame, and the context has eliminated one. "The other" is then the other one.

"That other" is more likely to be used when there are many possibilities. Context has eliminated one or more of these. "That other" then refers to an unspecified one of the remaining possibilities. The reason it's unspecified could be because it's clear from the context what's being referred to, or because the speaker doesn't know how to identify it (e.g. he's forgotten what it's called), or doesn't want to identify it.

I stress "more likely", as these are just general tendencies, not hard-and-fast rules. There are almost certainly other usage patterns and subtleties that I can't bring to mind offhand.
Mr Wordysubtleties that I can't bring to mind offhand.
(Is that a mixed metaphor?)

Thanks, Mr Wordy. That's what I was trying to say. - A.
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