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No, there isn't. But you could call the nouns, anyway, 'initial-stress-derived nouns' and linguists, at least, would understand you mean words like 'address' or 'recall'.

I created the page at . Hence my question.

I see. Well, wikipedia is sort of a dead loss, for that reason, I'm afraid. What is said there about languages and linguistics, for instance, is unreliable and often completely wrong. I gave up after seeing how it works.

-John Lawler www.umich.edu/~jlawler Univ of Michigan Linguistics Dept "Truthful words are not beautiful; beautiful words are not truthful. Good words are not persuasive; persuasive words are not good." -Lao Tzu
I see. Well, wikipedia is sort of a dead loss, for that reason, I'm afraid. What is said there about languages and linguistics, for instance, is unreliable and often completely wrong. I gave up after seeing how it works.

Hear, hear, Prof. John Lawler! I've been shocked to see (a) reputable AUE posters quoting the wikipedia as if it were some sort of reliable source of information (Hi, (REDACTED)!), and (b) reputable AUE posters indicating that they participate in the wikipedia process (Hi, M(EDACTED)!).
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. Hence my question.

I see. Well, wikipedia is sort of a dead loss, for that reason, I'm afraid.

I'm sorry, for what reason?
What is said there about languages and linguistics, for instance, is unreliable and often completely wrong. I gave up after seeing how it works.

Isn't the solution to that problem to correct the misinformation, rather than to give up on it?
I've been spending time correcting wrong information in Wikipedia about towns in Massachusetts, such as "Woods Hole is a town in Barnstable County, Massachusetts." (It isn't.)
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I don't have "collect" as a noun

Hmm... what would you call the short prayer that is usually known by this term?

I'd call it "not in my vocabulary".

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Here's one:

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Some dialects add "cement" and "police". (Menken gives "cement" without comment.) I'd add "defense", "reject", and "subject". My own dialect ... and I don't have "collect" as a noun, "descant" as a verb, "ferment" as an adjective, "instinct" as an adjective,

I might add "repair", though I've only heard it used that way in a certain production plant.

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Here's one: The following is a list of English words that have the same spelling (homographs) but different accentuation according ... and I don't have "collect" as a noun, "descant" as a verb, "ferment" as an adjective, "instinct" as an adjective,

In my dialect and, I suspect, a lot of the UK consummate would be distinguished by a change of the last vowel sound; the same with estimate. Adj: con - soo - [email protected]
Verb: con - soo - mate
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I see. Well, wikipedia is sort of a dead loss, for that reason, I'm afraid.

Good you're wrong. Is a.u.e. a "dead loss" because postings are not supposed to be authoritative? Authoritative is NOT what Wikipedia claims to be.
What is said there about languages and linguistics, for instance, is unreliable and often completely wrong. I gave up after seeing how it works.

I sympathize and agree, EXCEPT FOR THE BOTTOM-LINE CONCLUSION.

The lower-level math articles (first-year calculus; perhaps to a lesser extend second-year) are for the most part clumsily written, but I think that will change for reasons I will explain. The more typical ones are sometimes beautifully done and usually compentent if not pedogogically beautiful. Now consider:

(1) All it takes is a small number of experts in a field putting a few dozen articles on their watchlists, so that they see all changes done, to raise the standards enormously; because

(2) Among the participants, even those who know little are almost always eager to learn and happy to be guided by those who know more.
(3) Language may be one of the fields in which (1) (above) has not yet happened.
(4) Vandalism is surprisingly rare. When it happens to any article on someone's watchlist, it gets fixed quickly. Even when it doesn't, it is seen by many, because the "recent changes" list and the "new articles" list are watched by dozens of people 24/7. It's really easy to fix because all earlier versions of an article are immediately visible by clicking on "page history".

As an example of (2), I think of an article titled "improper integral". Everyone who's had first-year calculus knows this topic; most do not realize it has subtleties involving conditional convergence; someone who did realize this wrote some alarmist hyperbole ("Nothing can be taken for granted about these integrals ...") that was short on hard facts. I and several others eventually stepped in and cleaned up the relative mess. The earlier authors seemed to appreciate that opportunity to learn more; if they were not inclined in that way they wouldn't have been there in the first place.

Mike Hardy
I've been spending time correcting wrong information in Wikipedia about towns in Massachusetts, such as "Woods Hole is a town in Barnstable County, Massachusetts." (It isn't.)

What's the point, if Joe Schmoe Wise can come along and change it back? You can argue that it's not likely, but there's still the question about the point of bothering. There's a correction mechanism, but there's no corrective pressure on the correction mechanism, IYFM.

I spent a few hours trying to correct some wikipedia stuff in an area or two where I know probably more than the average person. I gave up because there is so much misinformation, some of it potentially dangerous, that it actually discredits a person to have anything to do with wikipedia. It makes more sense simply to condemn, castigate and mock wikipedia and instead encourage people to get information from other sources.
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I've been spending time correcting wrong information in Wikipedia about ... Hole is a town in Barnstable County, Massachusetts." (It isn't.)

What's the point, if Joe Schmoe Wise can come along and change it back? You can argue that it's not likely, but there's still the question about the point of bothering. There's a correction mechanism, but there's no corrective pressure on the correction mechanism, IYFM.

There's lots of such pressure, in some fields, e.g., of which advance mathematics is one, even if less so in more elementary mathematics.
And an amazing degree of civility generally prevails, for an internet forum. Mike Hardy
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