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Yes, but what is the noun "natal" (apart from a South African province, Natal)? I think that is what Rob was trying to ask.

(OED1) Natal B. /sb./ † 1. A birthday-feast. † 2. /pl./ Birthday celebrations. /obs./ This escapes the SOED4=NSOED & SOED5 compass of words active since 1700.

... which reminds me of "reckoning by my natal day" in the Pirates of Penzance, but then we are back to the adjective. I guess the nouns above were probably nounings from the adjective.
Nowadays, 'natal' usually appears with ante-, pre- or post- appended: referring to births but not birthdays.
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Nowadays, 'natal' usually appears with ante-, pre- or post- appended: referring to births but not birthdays.

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(OED1) Natal B. /sb./ † 1. A birthday-feast. ... the SOED4=NSOED & SOED5 compass of words active since 1700.

... which reminds me of "reckoning by my natal day" in the Pirates of Penzance, but then we are back ... nounings from the adjective. Nowadays, 'natal' usually appears with ante-, pre- or post- appended: referring to births but not birthdays.

The noun is, I believe, derived from "Terra Natalis".

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Nowadays, 'natal' usually appears with ante-, pre- or post- appended: referring to births but not birthdays.

"Peri-" as well. I don't think I've heard "antenatal", although I see that Google turns up 136,000 hits to 997,000 for "prenatal". MWCD10 dates both of them to roughly the same time: 1817 for "antenatal" and
1826 for "prenatal".

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Nowadays, 'natal' usually appears with ante-, pre- or post- appended: referring to births but not birthdays.

"Peri-" as well. I don't think I've heard "antenatal", although I see that Google turns up 136,000 hits to 997,000 for "prenatal". MWCD10 dates both of them to roughly the same time: 1817 for "antenatal" and 1826 for "prenatal".

"Ante-natal" is the usual term in England for care before the baby is born. After the birth, there's "neo-natal" as well as "peri-natal", and then "post-natal". I have an idea that "neonatal" applies more to the baby than the mother, but I may be wrong.

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Nowadays, 'natal' usually appears with ante-, pre- or post- appended: referring to births but not birthdays.

"Peri-" as well. I don't think I've heard "antenatal", although I see that Google turns up 136,000 hits to 997,000 for "prenatal". MWCD10 dates both of them to roughly the same time: 1817 for "antenatal" and 1826 for "prenatal".

Are abortionists anti-natal?

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Are abortionists anti-natal?

The same way pro-lifers are contra-ceptives.
Are abortionists anti-natal?

They run anti-natal clinics.

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