I'm watching a show on the Discovery Times channel, "Thomas L. Friedman Reporting" on the topic "The Other Side of Outsourcing." The reporter is visiting Bangalore to see the effects of the outsourcing phenomenon on the people and culture there. It's very fascinating. For example I just saw a segment on how the employees are being taught American accents in order to work call centers.

Let's not get a flamewar about the pros or cons of outsourcing please!

But I would like to ask what you all think the future effects Indian English will have on the world? I work at Oracle with a workforce that is probably 60-70% Indian, and I find myself sometimes adopting some Indian patterns of speech.
For example, I sometimes speak with an Indian sing-song or say things like "Is it" or "Isn't it" to the ends of sentences, where "to be" is not the verb and/or the subject of the sentence is a person, not an "it." All this despite the fact that I'm California born & raised.

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I'm watching a show on the Discovery Times channel, "Thomas L. Friedman Reporting" on the topic "The Other Side of ... of the sentence is a person, not an "it." All this despite the fact that I'm California born & raised.

I work in an office that, for the last two or three years, has seen an influx of contract employees from the Indian subcontinent...more recently, I've noticed western employees (FTE's, we calls 'em, and I include myself) nodding in figure-eights, speaking in the present progressive ("This is something I would like to be doing"), and calling one another "sir" a lot more than before..r
. . . I work at Oracle with a workforce that is probably 60-70% Indian, and I find myself ... of the sentence is a person, not an "it." All this despite the fact that I'm California born & raised.

The examples cited as no less Welsh than Indian, and probably survive in other branches of English.

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William R Ward filted:

I'm watching a show on the Discovery Times channel, "Thomas ... this despite the fact that I'm California born & raised.

I work in an office that, for the last two or three years, has seen aninflux of contract employees from ... the present progressive ("This is something Iwould like to be doing"), and calling one another "sir" a lot more thanbefore..r

Hopefully more Americans will start washing their hands before they eat.
If you have digital cable or satellite you should get this channel. If you missed it, it will be aired again in 3 hours (@ 6am PST).

It's on again right now, and will be repeated in 3 hours (@ 2pm PST). The part relevant to language is at the beginning of the show.

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. . . I work at Oracle with a ... this despite the fact that I'm California born & raised.

The examples cited as no less Welsh than Indian, and probably survive in other branches of English.

Yes - but the Welschman is distinctive by the way he wears his leek in his turban.
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But we do...sometimes as much as four or five hours before we eat..r
I'm watching a show on the Discovery Times channel, "Thomas L. Friedman Reporting" on the topic "The Other Side of ... accents in order to work call centers. Let's not get a flamewar about the pros or cons of outsourcing please!

While not wanting to get involved in the pros and cons, I think you are using "Outsourcving" in a strange way.
While many firms are outsourcing customer support to "call centres", your query implies that these call centres are necessarily on other continents, and that "outsourcing" means that.
Many firms also outsource their cleaning to specialised office cleaning firms, but these atre not usually located on other continents. In the same way they lease fleets of vehicles rather than buying them, and so on.

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I'm watching a show on the Discovery Times channel, "Thomas ... a flamewar about the pros or cons of outsourcing please!

While not wanting to get involved in the pros and cons, I think you are using "Outsourcving" in a strange ... to "call centres", your query implies that these call centres are necessarily on other continents, and that "outsourcing" means that.

You are correct, sir. See a thread begun by Joe Manfre a year or two ago.
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