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Hi

I'd like to ask you about the passive voice.

1. People believe that the president was very shy as a child. The president is believed to have been very shy as a child. I'M WONDERING WHEN I CAN USE HAD BEEN?

2. People believed that the president was very shy as a child. CAN I WRITE "The president had been believed to be very shy as a child" Can I use "had been" ???

How about this one: People thought he was a good candidate for the position. Can I write: He had been thought to be ........

Thanks
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NewguestHi

I'd like to ask you about the passive voice.

1. People believe that the president was very shy as a child. The president is believed to have been very shy as a child. I'M WONDERING WHEN I CAN USE HAD BEEN?

2. People believed that the president was very shy as a child. CAN I WRITE "The president had been believed to be very shy as a child" Can I use "had been" ???

How about this one: People thought he was a good candidate for the position. Can I write: He had been thought to be ........

Thanks

Hi Newguest,

Your examples were not very good ones in terms of passive voice usage. Learners must realize that not all sentences are passive compatible. Here are a few examples which may help you understand better:

Active Present Perfect voice:

As a result of fuel price increase by the oil refineries in recent months, all airlines have tagged on a 10% fuel surcharge onto the price of each ticket to offset the costs.. Airlines are the subject.

Passive present perfect voice:

As a result of the of fuel price increase by the oil refineries in recent months, a 10% fuel surcharge has been added to each ticket by all airlines to offset the cost. – here the surcharge is the subject.

Past perfect passive:

My car had been serviced by Paul for a few years until he left the repair shop. Now I have to find a new mechanics. – My car is the subject.

Active Past perfect: Paul had been servicing my car for years. Now that he has left the repair shop, I have to find a new mechanic. Paul is the subject.

NewguestI'd like to ask you about the passive voice.
1. People believe that the president was very shy as a child.

The president is believed to have been very shy as a child.

I'M WONDERING WHEN I CAN USE HAD BEEN?
I don't think anyone has mentioned this. My apologies if someone has already mentioned the fact that 'to have been' is not a passive construction in your sentence. It is a perfect infinitive.

The use of a perfect infinitive does not automatically equate to the past perfect.

And, of course, you cannot say 'to had been'.